Supermarine WALRUS Mk.I, Revell 1/72

[Janjic]

Da, imaš pravo, baš odosmo u OT. Nije da se sekiram, nego ljudski je da se čovjek izvine 
Živio 

[Janjic]

Evo male dopune. Nakon postavljanja dekala na donja krila, pojavio se silvering pa sam morao da isječem prozirne dijelove. Hemiju za dekale nemam, tako da nije bilo drugog načina. Uradio sam i šemu ostatka aviona (trup + gornja krila). Možda griješim, ali nekako mi se čini da to nije ta boja. Naravno, ja sam radio po Revelovoj sastavnici. Poredio sam boju svog aviona sa slikama drugih maketa koje sam našao na netu. Vjerovatno sam ja negdje pogriješio, ali nema veze, ostaće ovakav. Evo i par slika pa prosudite 



Pozdrav,
Mladen.

[djos & filip]

Lepo napreduje.
Silvering na mat povrsini skoro uvek dodje do izrazaja, bar ja imam takvo iskustvo pogotovo sa revel oznakama.

Samo napred

[anki]

Meni se cini da su pomesane boje za gornjaku gornjeg i gornjaku donjeg krila. Ova kombinacija boja na gornjaci donjeg krila cini mi se OK za trup i gornjaku gornjeg krila. Sto se tice gornjake donjeg krila tu bi trebalo obe boje za nijansu svetlije od onih na gornjaci gornjeg krila.

Ili da okrenem - mislim da je ovo na trupu i gornjaci gornjeg krila pogresno jer je previse svetlo a ova zelena ode jos i u braon.

Ako ces popravljati mogu ti poslati specifikacije za britanske mornaricke dvokrilce tog vremena. S druge strane ako si zadovoljan (a moze i tako jer su gornje povrsine bas izbledele od sunca a ova gornjaka donjeg krila nije jer je zaklonjena) onda nema potrebe da popravljas, a ja nemoram da preturam arhivu.

[Kerber]

Savet za decale si vec verovatno dobijao, al' 'ajde jos jednom:
1. Nece slonce u lonce ! U prevodu - ne idu decali na mat povrsinu. A ako nemas lak, ili ga ne koristis iz nekog drugog razloga, tu je Pronto (ma koliko ga neko ne voli ili ne koristi)...Em se nanosi odlicno cetkicama, am daje visoki sjaj, em se decali lepe na njega kao tata na mamu...
2. Nemamo softiciranu hemiju za decale - imamo uvek sirce/ocat...najbolje alkoholno...das mu ga malo po povrsini makete (lakirane, naravno), pa aplikujes decal...Brze ga namesti na mesto, da ga ne razjede sirce, a kad se sve stacionira gde treba, papirnom maramicom, salvetom, pokupis visak tecnosti oko makete...mozda i da malo isteras visak ispod decala, samo pazljivo, ne vuci salvet. Pusti da se osusi, bez dodatnog diranja...Ako se i posle toga jos joguni i ispoljava "silvering, nakvasi opet to vodom, da se cisto malo navlazi decal, pa malo sirceta preko i ne pipaj dok se ne osusi!

Za svaki slucaj, isprobaj to na nekom poligonu (neki krsh od makete koji neces da sklapas, ili neka starudija), da vidis kako ti se ponasa i lak/pronto i boja i decal i kucna hemija...I od decala zavisi...a neki ce se od cistog, nerastvorenog sirceta raspasi/izgubiti farbu, pretvoriti se u zvaku...

[anki]

Prethodna moja tvrdnja je ipak bila pausalna i tice se seme od pre decembra 1940. Ti prvo moras da odredis iz kog perioda je tvoj aparat. Evo i pravilnika. Dakle samo delovi koji se ticu tvog aviona. Dve boje koje se pominju su otprilie one kojima si bojio gornjaku donjeg krila. Po pravilniku bi ceo avion osim donjih povrsina trebao da bude u njima (ceo pravilnik je na http://www.rafweb.org/sqn_codes.htm ). Ovaj stariji od pre 12.12.1940. nemogu da pronadjem:

AMO A926/40 (12 December 1940)

Aircraft Colouring and Recognition Markings

1.    The following regulations apply to all service aircraft at home and overseas.  Departures from, and additions to, the standard colour schemes and markings are not to be made without prior Air Ministry approval.

2.    The provisions of this order, which take immediate effect, supercede those contained in all previous Air Ministry Orders on this subject. It would have taken some time for these changes to be fully implemented and older aircraft would have continued to be seen in the previous scheme.

paras 3 & 4 deleted by A30/41

I. Camouflage Colouring of British Aircraft, including American and Allied Types in use by British Air Forces

5.      Explanation of terms(ii)     Temperate sea scheme camouflage. - This consists of two colours DARK SLATE GREY and EXTRA DARK SEA GREY.

(iii) Upper surface.-This term comprises all surfaces visible in plan view from above, together with the following miscellaneous surfaces :-

(a) Top surfaces of the lower main planes of biplanes.
(b) Upper surfaces of floats of float-planes.

(c)           Inter-plane struts on biplanes.

(iv) Under-surfaces.-This term comprises all surfaces visible in plan view from below, including the following :-

(a)           Under-surfaces of the upper main planes of biplanes.

(b)         Fixed undercarriage and float supporting struts.

(c)         Wheel spats on fixed undercarriages and under-surfaces of floats.

(v) Side surfaces.-This term comprises all major surfaces visible in side view, including both sides of fins and rudders.  Except as otherwise provided in this order, tail unit side surfaces are to be coloured as upper surfaces.  All other side surfaces will be proportionately painted in the colour prescribed for upper and under-surfaces respectively, the dividing line being determined by the relative amount of side surface visible when viewed from directly above or directly below.  At this dividing line the two contrasting colours of upper and under surfaces are to be merged into one another so as not to form a definite line of demarcation.

Exception.-On aircraft the under-surfaces of which are painted yellow (see para. 6 (ii) (b) and (g) below) the upper surface camouflage is to be extended downwards to cover the whole of the side surfaces of the fuselage and, in addition, the wheel spats and undercarriage fairings of such aircraft with fixed undercarriages are to be camouflaged as for upper surfaces.

7.  Colour schemes of flying boats, float planes, amphibians and Fleet Air Arm aircraft.-(i) Upper Surfaces.-Upper surfaces of all flying boats, float planes, amphibians and Fleet Air Armaircraft are to be camouflaged in the temperate sea scheme, with the exception of target (pilotless) aircraft whose upper surfaces will be in the temperate land scheme.
(ii) Under-surfaces.-The under-surfaces of all flying boats, float planes, amphibians and Fleet Air Arm aircraft are to be painted duck-egg blue (Sky Type "S").

The orders quoted above have been amended to AMO A30/41 issued on 9 January 1941 and AMO A157/41 issued on 6 March 1941.

A.513 Camouflage Colouring and Markings of Aircraft (10 July 194l.)
1.  A.M.0. A.926/40, as amended by A.30/41 and A.157/41, is super­seded by the instructions contained in this order, which take effect immediately.
4. R.A.F. flying-boats, float planes and amphibians.-(i) Temperate sea scheme camouflage, consisting of' two colours, dark slate grey, and extra dark sea grey, is to be used for the upper surfaces of all aircraft except target aircraft, whose upper surfaces are to be camouflaged inaccordance with the instructions contained in para. 3 (i) (a) above.
(ii)      The under-surfaces of all aircraft are to be painted duck-egg blue (Sky-Type "S").

Sledeci kasniji pravilnik je na http://www.rafweb.org/sqn_codes2.htm  i u njemu je skroz na dnu cak i graficki prikazana sema za Walrusa. Dakle kako stvari stoje prema ovim pravilnicimna ista je boja i na gornjem i donjem krilu posle 12.12.1940.
Dalje na linku http://www.rafweb.org/Sqn_codes3.htm ces videti tacno propisanu sliku Walrusa sa oznakama na njemu.

[airsuba]

Još nije kasno da popraviš to krilo, svakako je greška u uputu jer su te kombinacije sa posvetljenim bojama kotišćene na početku rata ("shadow" kamuflaže) tako da to nisu ni trebali da daju za aparat sa pacifika '45. Prefarbaj ga da bude kao ostatak aviona, pa neka bude neki malo 'ostareli' 

Izvor za šeme u Revell maketi je publikacija o Walrusima iz serijala "Warpaint".

Ovaj ti radiš


a ovako izgleda jedan rani iz 1940 koji je imao "shadow" kamuflažu kod koja je donje krilo kao i donja polovina trupa u posvetljenim bojama

[Janjic]

Mnogo vam hvala na ovako iscrpinim obajšnjenjima, na sliakma, linkovima i svemu ostalom!

Nisam bio upoznat iz kog je perida šema koju radim. Pošto sam još nešto uradio na maketi, ostaće ovakva kakva je i sada.

Još jednom hvala svima živi i zdravi bili !

[Janjic]

Evo male dopune, nešto se ipak radilo   
Donja strana aviona orabana u Revell 59 Sky blue. Nosač motora, plovci, poklopac kabine i mitraljezi gotovi  ! Evo i par slika:


Pozdrav,
Mladen.