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Title: Academy P-40 N Warhawk
Post by: M@rio on 10-06-2012, 17:14:46
Ovu maketu sam poceo da radim pre izvesnog (ima nesto vise od godinu dana). Nemam fotografije iz ranijeg perioda rada, posto sam imao problema sa foto aparatom (i jos uvek imam)...Ove fotografije sam pre neki dan uradio sa pozajmljenim aparatom. Sto se tice makete ona je u razmeri 1/72 i uglavnom pri sklapanju nisam imao nekih poteskoca. Dodat je Eduardov Zoom set za P 40 N, a sto se tice nekih dorada nista nije radjeno osim malo seckanja i malo doradjivanja sedista...Ova zelena boja za unutrasnjost kokpita i stajnog trapa je neki moj mix (recimo 5:1, Hu 102 i Hu 154). To je to evo fotki:
(http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g475/MarioxxT/Academy%20P-40%20N%20Warhawk/th_P6100064.jpg) (http://s1103.photobucket.com/albums/g475/MarioxxT/Academy%20P-40%20N%20Warhawk/?action=view&current=P6100064.jpg)  (http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g475/MarioxxT/Academy%20P-40%20N%20Warhawk/th_P6100063.jpg) (http://s1103.photobucket.com/albums/g475/MarioxxT/Academy%20P-40%20N%20Warhawk/?action=view&current=P6100063.jpg)  (http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g475/MarioxxT/Academy%20P-40%20N%20Warhawk/th_P6100059.jpg) (http://s1103.photobucket.com/albums/g475/MarioxxT/Academy%20P-40%20N%20Warhawk/?action=view&current=P6100059.jpg)  (http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g475/MarioxxT/Academy%20P-40%20N%20Warhawk/th_P6100047.jpg) (http://s1103.photobucket.com/albums/g475/MarioxxT/Academy%20P-40%20N%20Warhawk/?action=view&current=P6100047.jpg)  (http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g475/MarioxxT/Academy%20P-40%20N%20Warhawk/th_P6100046.jpg) (http://s1103.photobucket.com/albums/g475/MarioxxT/Academy%20P-40%20N%20Warhawk/?action=view&current=P6100046.jpg)
(http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g475/MarioxxT/Academy%20P-40%20N%20Warhawk/th_P6100057.jpg) (http://s1103.photobucket.com/albums/g475/MarioxxT/Academy%20P-40%20N%20Warhawk/?action=view&current=P6100057.jpg)  (http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g475/MarioxxT/Academy%20P-40%20N%20Warhawk/th_P6100056.jpg) (http://s1103.photobucket.com/albums/g475/MarioxxT/Academy%20P-40%20N%20Warhawk/?action=view&current=P6100056.jpg)  (http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g475/MarioxxT/Academy%20P-40%20N%20Warhawk/th_P6100049.jpg) (http://s1103.photobucket.com/albums/g475/MarioxxT/Academy%20P-40%20N%20Warhawk/?action=view&current=P6100049.jpg)  (http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g475/MarioxxT/Academy%20P-40%20N%20Warhawk/th_P6100048.jpg) (http://s1103.photobucket.com/albums/g475/MarioxxT/Academy%20P-40%20N%20Warhawk/?action=view&current=P6100048.jpg)  (http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g475/MarioxxT/Academy%20P-40%20N%20Warhawk/th_P6100043.jpg) (http://s1103.photobucket.com/albums/g475/MarioxxT/Academy%20P-40%20N%20Warhawk/?action=view&current=P6100043.jpg)
(http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g475/MarioxxT/Academy%20P-40%20N%20Warhawk/th_P6100053.jpg) (http://s1103.photobucket.com/albums/g475/MarioxxT/Academy%20P-40%20N%20Warhawk/?action=view&current=P6100053.jpg)  (http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g475/MarioxxT/Academy%20P-40%20N%20Warhawk/th_P6100052.jpg) (http://s1103.photobucket.com/albums/g475/MarioxxT/Academy%20P-40%20N%20Warhawk/?action=view&current=P6100052.jpg)  (http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g475/MarioxxT/Academy%20P-40%20N%20Warhawk/th_P6100051.jpg) (http://s1103.photobucket.com/albums/g475/MarioxxT/Academy%20P-40%20N%20Warhawk/?action=view&current=P6100051.jpg)  (http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g475/MarioxxT/Academy%20P-40%20N%20Warhawk/th_P6100050.jpg) (http://s1103.photobucket.com/albums/g475/MarioxxT/Academy%20P-40%20N%20Warhawk/?action=view&current=P6100050.jpg)  (http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g475/MarioxxT/Academy%20P-40%20N%20Warhawk/th_P6100065.jpg) (http://s1103.photobucket.com/albums/g475/MarioxxT/Academy%20P-40%20N%20Warhawk/?action=view&current=P6100065.jpg)

Pozdrav,
Mario
Title: Re: Academy P-40 N Warhawk
Post by: husky on 10-06-2012, 20:27:52
Solidno izgleda za sad.
Koju ces semu kamuflaze raditi?
Title: Re: Academy P-40 N Warhawk
Post by: on 10-06-2012, 20:34:52
Samo pazi, da ga ne upropastiš sa Academy spinnerom iz kutije. Potraži Heller/Smer/Airfix ili bilo koju drugu zaostavštinu u 1:72 pa zameni taj deo jer je ovaj iz kutije grozan.
Uostalo potraži slike mog primerka u galeriji.

Josip
Title: Re: Academy P-40 N Warhawk
Post by: Warhawk on 11-06-2012, 18:26:44
Nema potrebe za ubijanjem drugih maketa. Ovaj se relativno brzo može preraditi.
(prednji deo manje zakrivljen - gotovo pravilan konus)
(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x31/warhawk_photo/makete/P-40E/th_IMG_0380.jpg) (http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x31/warhawk_photo/makete/P-40E/IMG_0380.jpg)
Title: Re: Academy P-40 N Warhawk
Post by: M@rio on 11-06-2012, 19:25:07
Probao sam da preradim, mislim da ne izgleda lose...Warhawk, hvala za sliku!

(http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g475/MarioxxT/Academy%20P-40%20N%20Warhawk/P6110009.jpg)
(http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g475/MarioxxT/Academy%20P-40%20N%20Warhawk/P6110007.jpg)
(http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g475/MarioxxT/Academy%20P-40%20N%20Warhawk/P6110003.jpg)

Pozdrav!
Title: Re: Academy P-40 N Warhawk
Post by: husky on 11-06-2012, 20:55:54
Hm, malo nesretno izgleda, doradi ga ako te ne mrzi...
Title: Re: Academy P-40 N Warhawk
Post by: Warhawk on 12-06-2012, 09:19:20
Meni deluje OK, ta razlika izmedju prednjeg i zadnjeg dela treba da se vidi, ali baš je suptilna.
Mislim da je dovoljno naglašena, samo trebalo bi da počne od tog panela koji ih razdvaja...

(http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/images/p-40-020903-o-9999b-063.jpg)
Title: Re: Academy P-40 N Warhawk
Post by: KuKLiNsKi on 12-06-2012, 11:30:09
meni izgleda taman kako treba...  ???
Title: Re: Academy P-40 N Warhawk
Post by: on 12-06-2012, 13:58:37
I meni takođe.
E sad... ova maketa je puna greška i greškica i nije baš nešto. Stara Hasegawa ima skroz pogođen i spinner i leđa koja su malo grbava, kao na slici, dok je ovde sve ravno.
A to se i ne može baš ispraviti.
Title: Re: Academy P-40 N Warhawk
Post by: Warhawk on 12-06-2012, 15:40:57
Quote from: JŽ on 12-06-2012, 13:58:37
A to se i ne može baš ispraviti.

Može, samo su potrebni git i stiren.
Koristim planove iz Kagero Topcolors publikacije - najbliži fotkama
Nije još gotovo, zezaju me neka udubljenja, al tu smo negde...

(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x31/warhawk_photo/razno/glooposti/th_DSC02511.jpg) (http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x31/warhawk_photo/razno/glooposti/DSC02511.jpg)
Title: Re: Academy P-40 N Warhawk
Post by: M@rio on 12-06-2012, 16:16:09
Husky, mislio sam da probam sa ovom semom:

(http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g475/MarioxxT/razne%20stvari/Capture3.jpg)

Pozdrav!
Title: Re: Academy P-40 N Warhawk
Post by: on 12-06-2012, 18:57:22
A ona sa papagajem?
Title: Re: Academy P-40 N Warhawk
Post by: M@rio on 12-06-2012, 21:48:19
Kakva je ta sa papagajem, ja za ovu ne videh nikakvog papagaja?!

(http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g475/MarioxxT/razne%20stvari/10124800t2.jpg)
Title: Re: Academy P-40 N Warhawk
Post by: KuKLiNsKi on 12-06-2012, 23:49:54
čime se vi opterečujete ljudi... meni su prozori ispali iz revellovog Hinda (1/72) jer su premali... pa ga moram sad napravit ko na otpadu... gospu mu od cukra!  >:(
Title: Re: Academy P-40 N Warhawk
Post by: Warhawk on 13-06-2012, 10:39:54
što ih ne razvučeš od Clearfixa?
Title: Re: Academy P-40 N Warhawk
Post by: on 13-06-2012, 12:17:14
Papagaj:

http://wp.scn.ru/en/ww2/f/375/3/10
Title: Re: Academy P-40 N Warhawk
Post by: KuKLiNsKi on 13-06-2012, 17:47:15
jer je maketa tolko u banani da mi se neda 2 doatne sekunde potrošit na nju...
absolutno ništa nejde skupa da ne ostane 2 milimetra "lufta" između... užas
Title: Re: Academy P-40 N Warhawk
Post by: M@rio on 15-06-2012, 22:14:57
Evo pokusaja da napravim "grbu" ili ti blago zakrivljenje izmedju repa i kabine... Jos mi preostaje da obradim spoj trup - krila, pa se nadam da ce posle toga ici na farbanje...

(http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g475/MarioxxT/Academy%20P-40%20N%20Warhawk/IMG_0009.jpg)
(http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g475/MarioxxT/Academy%20P-40%20N%20Warhawk/IMG_0007.jpg)
(http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g475/MarioxxT/Academy%20P-40%20N%20Warhawk/IMG_0004.jpg)

Pozdrav!
Title: Re: Academy P-40 N Warhawk
Post by: Warhawk on 16-06-2012, 08:35:00
Najbolje je proveriti da li je to to kada se stavi staklarija i uporedi sa fotkom pravog (ne bi trebalo baš da odskače).
Meni deluje malčice prenaglašeno u zadnjem delu, ali možda se i varam...
Title: Re: Academy P-40 N Warhawk
Post by: on 17-06-2012, 21:17:47
Odma bolje ali kao što kaže kolega Warhawk. Isto tako imaj u vidu, da ga je najbolje praviti sa zatvorenom kabinom, pa se mogu i providni delovi malo odšmirgalti sa donje strane, da se sve uklapa kako treba.
Title: Re: Academy P-40 N Warhawk
Post by: Warhawk on 18-06-2012, 10:41:35
Nisam na to mislio. Mislio sam da grba ne odskače preko linije kanopija uprofilu (treba da ga tangira i krene blago nadole ka repu, nikako nagore pa nadole)
Inače će baš da deluje kao grbavac...
Title: Re: Academy P-40 N Warhawk
Post by: on 18-06-2012, 11:04:49
Ima čovek oči, ima i fotografija i nacrta pa neka bude šta bude. Ja se nadam najboljemu :)
Title: Re: Academy P-40 N Warhawk
Post by: M@rio on 18-06-2012, 13:55:52
Warhawk, pokusacu da ispravim "zakrivljenje" na ledjima aviona, posto za sada ne lezi nikako...Kabina za ovu varijantu je promasena skroz, da sam odma' to pogledao odlucio bi se za onu drugu varijantu kabine a od ove bi definitivno odustao!!! Ali sta je tu je, ostaje mi samo da polako probam da ispeglam sto se ispeglati da...Videcemo kako ce na kraju to da ispadne...
Pozdrav!!!
Title: Re: Academy P-40 N Warhawk
Post by: on 18-06-2012, 17:01:44
Ništa se ne brini oko unutrašnjosti kabine. Možda samo da malo modifikuješ sedište od. naslon i dodaš pojaseve te doradu nišana. Još ako zatvoriš kabinu...
Ne znam za tebe ali ja sam došao do zaključka, da se u toj razmeri stvarno ne treba toliko opterečivati cockpitom. Sve je tako sitno ;)
Title: Re: Academy P-40 N Warhawk
Post by: Warhawk on 18-06-2012, 20:46:08
Quote from: M@rio on 18-06-2012, 13:55:52
da sam odma' to pogledao odlucio bi se za onu drugu varijantu kabine a od ove bi definitivno odustao!!!

Kakva god da je za N, za E je još gora... za rane varijante jedino vak i ista ova hirurgija pomažu...
Title: Re: Academy P-40 N Warhawk
Post by: M@rio on 22-06-2012, 21:31:04
Staklici i propeler nisu lepljeni, samo su postavljeni radi celokupnog utiska...Morao sam da jos malo preradim ledja i ovaj treci deo kabine(deo koji se spaja sa ledjima aviona) sam "stanjio" po donjoj ivici...Sad izgleda malko bolje, sta vi kazete?

(http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g475/MarioxxT/Academy%20P-40%20N%20Warhawk/IMG_0001.jpg)
(http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g475/MarioxxT/Academy%20P-40%20N%20Warhawk/IMG_0003-1.jpg)

Pozdrav!
Title: Re: Academy P-40 N Warhawk
Post by: Warhawk on 23-06-2012, 10:52:07
Mislim da si grbu potrefio 100%. Svaka čast. Za nedelju dana si uradio nešto što ja cinculiram već mesecima...  ::)
Title: Re: Academy P-40 N Warhawk
Post by: on 23-06-2012, 14:00:55
Ovaj Academy meni jednostavno ne liči na umanjeni P-40N koliko god se mi trudili.
Ja bi ga na tvom mestu lepo završio pa iduči put radio Hasegawu koja istina nema neki cockpit ali je bar potrefljena u obliku.
Title: Re: Academy P-40 N Warhawk
Post by: Warhawk on 23-06-2012, 14:39:48
Možda ti utisak kvare previsoki srednji deo i vetrobran, pa sve deluje malo ko karikatura...
Slažem se da se s tim ne treba previše zezati (ja sam svoj problem rešio vak kabinom)
Title: Re: Academy P-40 N Warhawk
Post by: M@rio on 16-06-2013, 13:43:27
Evo posle duzeg vremena privodim ovu pticu kraju! Malo slika, cisto da se vidi nesto.
(http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g475/MarioxxT/Academy%20P-40%20N%20Warhawk/IMG_0012_zps86050a07.jpg) (http://s1103.photobucket.com/user/MarioxxT/media/Academy%20P-40%20N%20Warhawk/IMG_0012_zps86050a07.jpg.html)

(http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g475/MarioxxT/Academy%20P-40%20N%20Warhawk/IMG_0011_zps9a4801da.jpg) (http://s1103.photobucket.com/user/MarioxxT/media/Academy%20P-40%20N%20Warhawk/IMG_0011_zps9a4801da.jpg.html)

(http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g475/MarioxxT/Academy%20P-40%20N%20Warhawk/IMG_0010_zps318738ed.jpg) (http://s1103.photobucket.com/user/MarioxxT/media/Academy%20P-40%20N%20Warhawk/IMG_0010_zps318738ed.jpg.html)

(http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g475/MarioxxT/Academy%20P-40%20N%20Warhawk/IMG_0009-1_zps774aa835.jpg) (http://s1103.photobucket.com/user/MarioxxT/media/Academy%20P-40%20N%20Warhawk/IMG_0009-1_zps774aa835.jpg.html)

Nadam se da ce uskoro biti u zavrsenim maketama...

Pozdrav!
Title: Re: Academy P-40 N Warhawk
Post by: husky on 16-06-2013, 22:31:01
Dobar je.
Nastavak Letecih tigrova! ;-)