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Title: Dragon 1/144 German heavy tank Maus & Tiger I early
Post by: Sandman on 06-07-2007, 07:24:58
evo mene ponovo u oklopnim vodama - samo u josh manjoj skali....  :D :D :D >:D

u pitanju je Dragonova Panzer Korp serija 1/144....

konkretno, komplet sadrzi 2 tenka:

- najveci tenk WW2 koji nije dalje odmakao od prototipa (ili par njih?) ako se ne varam - Maus
- Tiger I rana verzija....

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/th_Day01-01.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/Day01-01.jpg)

makete su napravljene od neke chudne plastike koja lichi na neku meshavinu stirena i resina...a gusenice su od nekog gumiranog materijala - mozda je to ovaj novi DS (Dragon Styrene)....

u svakom sluchaju, delove sam reshio da lepim super lepkom (u gelu i obichan)....

pocheo sam sa Mausom - maketa se jako brza sklapa i u par koraka doshao sam dovde... ;)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/th_Day01-02.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/Day01-02.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/th_Day01-03.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/Day01-03.jpg)

medjutim, ova maketa je daleko od chuvene priche koja kaze da Dragon makete imaju savrsheno uklapanje - naime, kad se gusenice zalepe za donji deo tenka (shasija) i kada taj sklop treba zalepiti za gornji deo tela, dolazi do problema - prednji delovi gornje i donje polovine nisu se uklapali do kraja pa je palo sechenje i brushenje unutrashnjeg dela gornje polovine!  >:(

takodje, na zadnjem delu, ova plocha je bila poluiskrivljena, a dva zljeba koji su trebali da se uklope sa zljebom na gornjoj polovini trupa se nisu uklapali pa sam morao i njih da sechem!  >:( spojevi su zaliveni sa super lepkom a zatim zagitovani Mr. Surfacerom....

no, hajde, da ne kudim previshe ovu maketu, mozda je sve to i do razmere a i drugachijeg tipa plastike...  ::)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/th_Day01-04.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/Day01-04.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/th_Day01-05.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/Day01-05.jpg)

zato su me gusenice odushevile sa nivoom detalja!  :o
za ovu razmeru izgledaju mnogo bolje nego neke gusenice u 1/72 koje sam vidjao (Heller AMX30 npr. :P)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/th_Day01-06.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/Day01-06.jpg)

i za kraj, da bih docharao "velichinu" Mausa, uslikao sam ga pored Tripkove podmornice u istoj razmeri ;)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/th_Day01-07.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/Day01-07.jpg)

na Mausu cu josh eventualno polepiti ecovane reshetke na trupu, i nakon shmirglanja zadnjeg dela zalepiti i bure za gorivo, a zatim mu sledi farbanje....

sledeci je Tigar ;)
Title: Re: Dragon 1/144 German heavy tank Maus & Tiger I early
Post by: Aki on 06-07-2007, 10:12:33
a bre srki ala si navalio na ove minijaturne tenkove :D
stvarno super izgleda.gde si nabavio ovaj set ???
Title: Re: Dragon 1/144 German heavy tank Maus & Tiger I early
Post by: Sandman on 06-07-2007, 10:20:52
Quote from: @ki on 06-07-2007, 10:12:33
a bre srki ala si navalio na ove minijaturne tenkove :D
stvarno super izgleda.gde si nabavio ovaj set ???

pa gre'ota da stoje nesklopljeni, a rade se brzo...  ;) 8)
dobio sam ovaj set u Moshonu na poklon od Saleta...

inache su u Moshonu mogla da se kupe josh dva seta chini mi se - jedan je sadrzao Challenger 2 i Warrior, a drugi ne mogu da se setim koja dva tenka je sadrzao...
Title: Re: Dragon 1/144 German heavy tank Maus & Tiger I early
Post by: milanco on 06-07-2007, 12:42:27
UUUU zanimljivo izgleda bas me interesuje kako ce da ispadne :D
Title: Re: Dragon 1/144 German heavy tank Maus & Tiger I early
Post by: Sandman on 07-07-2007, 21:14:37
danas sam polepio ecovane reshetke na Mausu

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/th_Day02-01.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/Day02-01.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/th_Day02-02.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/Day02-02.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/th_Day02-03.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/Day02-03.jpg)

kao i bure za gorivo na zadnjem delu tenka...

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/th_Day02-04.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/Day02-04.jpg)

cev topa sam malo zagitovao jer je postojao zazor izmedju same cevi i njenog spoja sa kupolom...

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/th_Day02-05.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/Day02-05.jpg)

a sklopio sam i Tigra  :D

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/th_Day02-06.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/Day02-06.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/th_Day02-07.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/Day02-07.jpg)

ima jako lepe tochkove uradjene...

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/th_Day02-08.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/Day02-08.jpg)

a i gusenice - vide se chak i one sitne gravure izmedju chlanaka gusenica!  :o

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/th_Day02-09.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/Day02-09.jpg)

za kraj danashnjeg rada sam napravio jednu grupnu fotku sa Tigrom u 1/72.... chisto da docharam velichinu ova dva tenkica!

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/th_Day02-10.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/Day02-10.jpg)

"beba" Tigric sa vecim bratom  ;) :D

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/th_Day02-11.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/Day02-11.jpg)
Title: Re: Dragon 1/144 German heavy tank Maus & Tiger I early
Post by: tripko on 07-07-2007, 23:10:14
U superiska su tenkici pogotovu cela njihova serija
samo napred
Title: Re: Dragon 1/144 German heavy tank Maus & Tiger I early
Post by: Sandman on 27-07-2007, 21:56:43
evo malog nastavka radova....

oba tenkica su prvo preprskana MM crnom bojom, a zatim i sa Hu70 (Brick red) uz dodatak malo flat red boje, kako bih simulirao prajmer - ako kasnije budem radio lagani chipping ideja je da se na pojedinim mestima vidi i ovaj crveni prajmer...

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/th_Day03-01.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/Day03-01.jpg)
Title: Re: Dragon 1/144 German heavy tank Maus & Tiger I early
Post by: tripko on 27-07-2007, 22:28:22
to je ta prava crvena boja :o
Title: Re: Dragon 1/144 German heavy tank Maus & Tiger I early
Post by: Sandman on 27-07-2007, 23:31:03
Quote from: tripko on 27-07-2007, 22:28:22
to je ta prava crvena boja :o

da da...samo ipak u Hu70 mora da se doda malo crvene - ne secam se bash koliki je odnos boja, ali recimo da mozda nekih 10-15% crvene treba dodati u Hu70 da se dobije ova nijansa....  ::)
Title: Re: Dragon 1/144 German heavy tank Maus & Tiger I early
Post by: Sandman on 28-07-2007, 15:26:21
danas sam preprskao oba tenkica u njihove kamuflazne boje....

Tigar je preprskan u Hu123 posvetljenu sa malo svetlije sive koja mi je ostala od prskanja F-16....
ovo ce biti i komnachna "kamiflaza" na ovoj maketi, tako da na Tigru sad samo ostaju lakiranje, dekali, wash i prljanje pigmentima...i lagani chiping ponegde....

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/th_Day04-01.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/Day04-01.jpg)

Mausa je dobio osnovnu boju kamuflaze - po uputstvu je to MM Sand... po meni bi mozda trebalo da ide Panzer Yellow ali nema veze, deluje osvezavajuce ovako  :D kad padne wash i prljanje pigmentima bice kako treba ;)

Na ovoj maketi treba josh da se urade zmijuljice u zelenoj i braon boji.... radicu freehand sa fineline diznom jer me mrzi da maskiram ovolicku maketu sa tackit-om  :-\

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/th_Day04-02.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/Day04-02.jpg)
Title: Re: Dragon 1/144 German heavy tank Maus & Tiger I early
Post by: Sandman on 01-08-2007, 01:13:34
Maus je dobio i svoju finalnu kamuflazu - sa zmijicama braon i zelene boje....

Share sam radio freehand, koristeci Aztecovu fineline diznu i pritisak od nekih 0.5 bara....
Ovo je bilo moje prvo iskustvo sa freehand kamuflazama, pa josh sam bash i izabrao "pravu" razmeru za taj experiment  :D ....jest da mi se malo rasprshivala boja oko glavne share ali ne znam do chega je to.. mozda je trebalo josh malo razrediti boju?

Po prvi put sam takodje koristio white spirit za razredjivanje boje i jako sam zadovoljan njime - em ne smrdi kao standardni uljani razredjivach, em shto se boja mnooooogo brze sushi!  :o zahvaljujuci white spiritu uspeo sam da isprskam obe boje kamuflaze... da sam koristio obichni uljani verovatno bih chekao sledeci dan za sledecu boju....  ::)

Na kraju sam samo malo doradio podlogu sa Sand bojom kako bih "ubio" debljinu zmijica...

Znam da nije bash toliko efektno a ni autentichno...mada... imajuci u vidu da je Maus napravljen u svega 2 primerka ako se ne varam, a na netu sam nashao bar 5 razlichitih shema farbanja, onda ni ova moja nije losha  :D >:D

Ostaje sad samo da se i Maus i Tigar lakiraju i da im stavim dekale pa onda sledi wash i finalno matiranje i prljanje....i gusenice naravno  ;) :D

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/th_Day05-01.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/Day05-01.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/th_Day05-02.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/Day05-02.jpg)
Title: Re: Dragon 1/144 German heavy tank Maus & Tiger I early
Post by: Sandman on 14-08-2007, 21:11:00
danas sam postavio dekale na ova dva tenkica.....

na Tigru sam postavio broj S12 - do sada nisam obracao paznju da li su nemachki tenkovi iz WW2 imali i slovne oznake uz brojeve na kupoli, ali ovo mi je bilo po sastavnici pa nisam hteo da experimentishem mnogo ;)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/th_Day06-01.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/Day06-01.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/th_Day06-02.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/Day06-02.jpg)

krst na levoj strani je tretiran osim Microscale MicroSetom i MicroSol solucijom koja bukvalno razmeksha dekal takoda on legne po svim neravninama.... prvi put sam korisito ovaj agresivniji deo Set&Sol omekshivacha dekala i jako sam zadovoljan rezultatom....

naknadno ce ovi tow kablovi biti ofarbani preko dekala tako da ce izgledati kao da je dekal nalepljen ispod kablova ;)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/th_Day06-03.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/Day06-03.jpg)

za Mausa sam reshio da stavim malo vishe dekala nego su napisali iu sastavnici iz prostog razloga shto mi je delovalo nekako zanimljivije da mu nalepim i neke brojeve jedinica....

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/th_Day06-04.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/Day06-04.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/th_Day06-05.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/Day06-05.jpg)

stavio sam mu i ove ambleme iako ne znam bash da li oni idu uz ovu kamuflazu... ali neshto se razmishljam - ako je Maus bio skoro pa whatif tenk, zashto i njegovo oznachavanje ne bi bilo whatif ;)  :D

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/th_Day06-06.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/Day06-06.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/th_Day06-07.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/Day06-07.jpg)

nakon nekih pola sata dekale sam "zavoshtio" Future-om....

isprobao sam u radu i razoxxovu foru sa fenom za kosu - strava je!
Future se fenom osushi mnnooooooogo brze i moze se prskati sledeci sloj vec posle par desetina sekundi ;) .....

sledi wash, blagi chipping ponegde, matiranje i prljanje pigmentima....
Title: Re: Dragon 1/144 German heavy tank Maus & Tiger I early
Post by: Eraser on 14-08-2007, 21:21:08
Ovo izgleda neverovatno al za mene je 144  previse SM  ;D

Ne znam kako imas zivaca za ovu sicu???

Zavrsavaj ovo jer jedva cekam da vidim konacan iskoh  :D i nemoj da me drzis u neizvesnosti kao sa onim Citroen-om ;D
Title: Re: Dragon 1/144 German heavy tank Maus & Tiger I early
Post by: Aki on 14-08-2007, 21:24:27
srki,super su ti nalegli dekali,pogotovo onaj krst na tigru,meni izgleda kao da je farban cetkicom 0:)
Title: Re: Dragon 1/144 German heavy tank Maus & Tiger I early
Post by: Sandman on 14-08-2007, 21:27:23
Quote from: Eraser on 14-08-2007, 21:21:08
Ovo izgleda neverovatno al za mene je 144  previse SM  ;D

Ne znam kako imas zivaca za ovu sicu???

mozda zvuchi paradoksalno ali me nekako opushta rad sa liliputanskim maketama!  ::) :D

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Zavrsavaj ovo jer jedva cekam da vidim konacan iskoh  :D i nemoj da me drzis u neizvesnosti kao sa onim Citroen-om ;D

joj ne pominji taj Spachek.... na poslu smo u mega guzvi zadnjih mesec dana i nismo ni pipali tu maketu  :-[
ovaj dechko chija je maketa ju je odneo kuci da ofarba karoseriju a nalepio je i od maramice kao platneni krov ;)
motor je kod mene ali nikako da se nakanim da ga finishiram  :-[
Title: Re: Dragon 1/144 German heavy tank Maus & Tiger I early
Post by: Sandman on 14-08-2007, 21:36:00
Quote from: @ki on 14-08-2007, 21:24:27
srki,super su ti nalegli dekali,pogotovo onaj krst na tigru,meni izgleda kao da je farban cetkicom 0:)

hvala :)
definitivno Microscale MicroSet i MicroSol su majka mara za sredjivanje dekala!

mada bi mozda alternativa za MicroSet (blazi od ova dva) moglo da bude obichno sirce  ::) jer MicroSet ima identichan miris! MicroSol ima drugachiji (blazi) miris meni nepoznat ali zato razmekshava dekale samo tako! ;)

u svakom sluchaju, procedura je sledeca:

- stavi se microset na mesto gde ce ici dekal
- dekal se postavi na maketu
- ponovo se nakapa malo microseta
- dekal ovde pochinje da se malo smezurava - BEZ PANIKE, treba tako!
- kad se dekal ispravi posle izvesnog vremena maramicom se dobro pritisdne preko dekala da bi se finalno zalepio za podlogu

ako je potrebno da se dekal zalepi za neku vecu neravninu, koristi se MicroSol - prvi deo procedure je isti ali se nakon postavljanjde kala na maketu na dekal nakapa microsol umesto microseta.... ovde se vodi rachuan da se dekal ne pomeri jer postaje jaaaaaaako mekan! nakon dobroog sushenja, dekal je ispratio konture neravnina i samo ga treba maramicom pazljivo pritisnuti da bi se finalno fiksirao za podlogu...

eto to je sva mudrost za dekale ;)
Title: Re: Dragon 1/144 German heavy tank Maus & Tiger I early
Post by: Eraser on 14-08-2007, 21:42:07
Eeee to sam bas hteo da vas pitam,meni dekali ne prete konture i panele pa sam hteo da vidim kako vi to sredjujete.

A gde ima da se nabavi taj MicroSet???I jel posotji neka oprobana zamena za njega????
Title: Re: Dragon 1/144 German heavy tank Maus & Tiger I early
Post by: Hammond_Lord on 14-08-2007, 21:43:23
Bravo, Srki, kod tebe se radi punom parom! Odustao bih jos kod razmere 1/72, ali ova 1/144 je ipak....sitna za moje oci... :o Nadam se da ces uskoro zavrsiti weathering, pa da vidimo konacne fotografije uradjenih tenkova!
Title: Re: Dragon 1/144 German heavy tank Maus & Tiger I early
Post by: Sandman on 14-08-2007, 21:51:39
Quote from: Eraser on 14-08-2007, 21:42:07
Eeee to sam bas hteo da vas pitam,meni dekali ne prete konture i panele pa sam hteo da vidim kako vi to sredjujete.

A gde ima da se nabavi taj MicroSet???I jel posotji neka oprobana zamena za njega????

bitno je pre svega da imash GLOSS podlogu kako bi dekali shto bolje legli i kako se ne bi javljao silvering od filma koji prati dekal....

MicroSet sam dobio od Lanmija proshle godine, a MicroSol sam kupio u Moshonu proletos....mada, bilo je neshto od Microscale proizvoda pre par meseci i u radnji M-Hobby! Jedino preostaje ili narudzbina preko neta ili ako se nekako obresh u inostranstvu ili ako neko od stranaca donese neshto od hemije na nasha takmichenja....

zamena za ovo moze biti vec oprobana Gushina tehnika vruce i vrele vode ;) isprobao sam je kad sam lepio dekale na Peterbiltu i ispalo je jako dobro... samo shto "malo" budu vruci prsti posle  :D ;D

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Title: Re: Dragon 1/144 German heavy tank Maus & Tiger I early
Post by: Sandman on 14-08-2007, 21:56:10
Quote from: Hammond_Lord on 14-08-2007, 21:43:23
Bravo, Srki, kod tebe se radi punom parom! Odustao bih jos kod razmere 1/72, ali ova 1/144 je ipak....sitna za moje oci... :o Nadam se da ces uskoro zavrsiti weathering, pa da vidimo konacne fotografije uradjenih tenkova!

pa i nije ovo bash toliko sitno - ovaj Maus je malo manji od Tigra u 72ci  :D ;D :D >:D

ako nishta drugo, ovde se nisam zezao sa doradama  ;) >:D :D

bice verovatno uskoro zavrshene ove dve makete....

jedino shto me sad zanima je zapravo kada odraditi chipping na pojedinim mestima - pre washa i matiranja ili nakon washa?? ne zaboravite da ispod kamuflaze postoji sloj onog crvenog prajmera koji nameravam da istaknem chippingom.... isprobao bih onu foru sa shmirglanjem laganim kao shto je @ki radio na onom malom zutom Sdkfz.222
Title: Re: Dragon 1/144 German heavy tank Maus & Tiger I early
Post by: Sandman on 19-08-2007, 20:00:24
uradjen je i blagi chipping na oba tenkica...
chipping sam lagano radio vrhom italerijevog nozica koji ima jako oshtar i shpicast vrh, tako da se ispod kamuflaze providi meshavina crvenog prajmera i crne boje.... josh kad padne wash preko toga .... ;)

na kupolama sam preko zagrebanih povrshina laganmo preshao shmirglom kako bih napravio povrshinu gde je gazila posada preiliskom ulaska u kupolu....

Tigar...

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/th_Day07-01.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/Day07-01.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/th_Day07-02.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/Day07-02.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/th_Day07-03.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/Day07-03.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/th_Day07-04.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/Day07-04.jpg)

Maus....

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/th_Day07-05.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/Day07-05.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/th_Day07-06.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/Day07-06.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/th_Day07-07.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/Day07-07.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/th_Day07-08.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/Day07-08.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/th_Day07-09.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/Day07-09.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/th_Day07-10.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/Day07-10.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/th_Day07-11.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/Day07-11.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/th_Day07-12.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/Day07-12.jpg)
Title: Re: Dragon 1/144 German heavy tank Maus & Tiger I early
Post by: Sandman on 22-08-2007, 20:40:20
odradio sam i wash i prelakirao oba "priveska za kljucheve" matt lakom...

wash sam radio uljanom slikarskom bojom Windsor&Newton Burnt Umbra uz dodatak malo MM crne ....sve je jako razredjeno white spiritom.... zapravo, slikarska boja se najbolje razredjuje terpentinom, a ovako ostavlja sitne chestice na dnu posude, no pre svakog nanoshenja washa, chetkicom se isti razmuti....

Tigar

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/th_Day08-01.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/Day08-01.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/th_Day08-02.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/Day08-02.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/th_Day08-03.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/Day08-03.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/th_Day08-04.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/Day08-04.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/th_Day08-05.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/Day08-05.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/th_Day08-06.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/Day08-06.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/th_Day08-07.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/Day08-07.jpg)

Maus

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/th_Day08-08.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/Day08-08.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/th_Day08-09.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/Day08-09.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/th_Day08-10.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/Day08-10.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/th_Day08-11.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/Day08-11.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/th_Day08-12.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/Day08-12.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/th_Day08-13.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/Day08-13.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/th_Day08-14.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/Day08-14.jpg)

a danas sam ofarbao i gusenice u meshavinu iste slikrske boje ali sa mnogo vishe crne ....

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/th_Day08-15.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Dragon%201-144%20Maus%20and%20Tiger%20I/Day08-15.jpg)

sad slede drajbrash i prljanje pastelima...
Title: Re: Dragon 1/144 German heavy tank Maus & Tiger I early
Post by: tripko on 22-08-2007, 21:21:58
odlicno je ispalo najvise mi smeta na cevi linija kalupa
Title: Re: Dragon 1/144 German heavy tank Maus & Tiger I early
Post by: Sandman on 22-08-2007, 21:34:30
Quote from: tripko on 22-08-2007, 21:21:58
odlicno je ispalo najvise mi smeta na cevi linija kalupa

hvala :) ...

da, cev na tigru sam skroz zaboravio da oshmirglam josh pre farbanja  :-[ sad me mrzi da se zezam da to ispravljam...  :(

ostaje samo sad da ofarbam alatke po tigru, i detalje tipa auspuh, farovi,.... moram malo da pogledam josh neke referentne slikice za te detalje... i onda posle drajbrash i prljanje pastelima ....

najvishe mi se svidelo shto su dekali koji su bili maalkice deblji (za ovu razmeru!) nakon lakiranja futureom pre washa bili malo vishe iznivelisani sa povrshinom makete, a sada nakon matt laka se na mausu recimo uopshte ne vidi da je to dekal nego kao da je nafarbano! znachi dobar sloj laka preko dekala moze da sredi stvar kod debljih dekala..  ::)
Title: Re: Dragon 1/144 German heavy tank Maus & Tiger I early
Post by: Hartmann on 22-08-2007, 22:33:13
Lepi ti ovi 'privesci'  :).
jedino mi je cudno (ne znam dal' to tako ide kod tenkista), sto wash nisi uradio posle SVIH farbanja? Ovako ce valjda trebati ponovo da radis wash na alatu, kablovima,...
Title: Re: Dragon 1/144 German heavy tank Maus & Tiger I early
Post by: Sandman on 22-08-2007, 22:37:36
Quote from: hartmann on 22-08-2007, 22:33:13
Lepi ti ovi 'privesci'  :).
jedino mi je cudno (ne znam dal' to tako ide kod tenkista), sto wash nisi uradio posle SVIH farbanja? Ovako ce valjda trebati ponovo da radis wash na alatu, kablovima,...

hvala :) alat se samo malo drajbrashuje - moze i tako da se simulira rabljenost njihova - a meni je iskreno lakshe da tako odradim taj efekat nego washom  :-\ a pritom preko svega toga shto je ofarbano (i alatke i kablovi) dolazi prljanje pastelima ili pigmentima takod asam taj wash i nije toliko potreban... pogotovo u ovoj razmeri..... mada sam vecheras razmishljao upravo o ovome shto si ti pitao....  ::) mozda skedeci put probam tako, videcu vec :)

pozz
Title: Re: Dragon 1/144 German heavy tank Maus & Tiger I early
Post by: Boki on 23-08-2007, 15:53:25
Uh, kad samo pomislim koliko je ovo malecno?
Nezgodna stvar kod ovako sitnih maketa je što se mnoge "nepravilnosti" ne vide golim okom, tek na fotografiji.
Bravo Srki. Makete su odlične.
Title: Re: Dragon 1/144 German heavy tank Maus & Tiger I early
Post by: milanco on 23-08-2007, 16:48:00
svaka ti cast ajde da ih vidimo u zavrsene makete sto pre ;)