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Kampanje => 2009. godina => Završene kampanje => "Ćufte - nekad i sad" => Topic started by: gasha on 28-01-2009, 23:12:02

Title: ZERO FIGHTER TYPE 52C (A6M5C) 1/72 Academi
Post by: gasha on 28-01-2009, 23:12:02
Evo i moje cufte. Posto nisam bio pri paricama za neki ozbiljniji model, kupih ovog akademca. Gle cuda, za sada sve leze ko dupe na noshu. Ostalo mi malo pojaseva za 72 ku pa resih da iskoristim. Instrument tabla siromasna.Prakticno samo rupe gde bi trebali biti instrumenti.

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Title: Re: ZERO FIGHTER TYPE 52C (A6M5C) 1/72 Academi
Post by: Goran A. on 28-01-2009, 23:56:30
Hoces li raditi bas tog iz kutije ili ces nesto novo?
Title: Re: ZERO FIGHTER TYPE 52C (A6M5C) 1/72 Academi
Post by: gasha on 29-01-2009, 11:04:07
Quote from: AG02 on 28-01-2009, 23:56:30
Hoces li raditi bas tog iz kutije ili ces nesto novo?

Nisam bash vican japanezerima. Proucicu malo sta bi se moglo napraviti interesantno. Za sada sam mislio da uradim bash ovog sa slike.
Title: Re: ZERO FIGHTER TYPE 52C (A6M5C) 1/72 Academi
Post by: Kerber on 29-01-2009, 12:55:51
Ti kasni modeli Zeroa su bas bili uniformno farbani, mislim da sam samo jednog drugacije farbanog video...u stvari - neofarban.
Go metal...Radio mu je profil po fotki neki poznatiji ilustrator - mislim onaj Boser (potrazi na Hyperscale, ako te zanima).
A ovaj je sa oznakama asa Takea Tanimitzu...
Ma, samo ga ti uradi, bice lutka.
Pozz !
Title: Re: ZERO FIGHTER TYPE 52C (A6M5C) 1/72 Academi
Post by: Profa on 29-01-2009, 13:25:40
Pridružiću ti se uskoro, sa istom maketom i istim oznakama, samo da pozavršavam neke davno započete...
BTW, ova aotake bi trebala da ti bude puno metaličnija i prozirnija... :-\ Nek' je i zelena (Nakajima), a ne plava (Mitsubishi), samo da je više k'o proziran lak preko metala, sa nijansom boje... Ovako mi deluje previše amerikanska cink hromat zelena...
Title: Re: ZERO FIGHTER TYPE 52C (A6M5C) 1/72 Academi
Post by: lord sir giga on 29-01-2009, 18:24:18
AKo slucajno imas knjigu "SAMURAJ"  Sabuo Sakai, imas jednu sliku bas ovog aviona. Nemogu da se bas setim na kojoj ga je strani Saburo opisao, ali ako imas knjigu pokusaj da nadjes
Title: Re: ZERO FIGHTER TYPE 52C (A6M5C) 1/72 Academi
Post by: Sandman on 29-01-2009, 19:40:31
dobar pochetak...

hocesh li na ovoj maketi mozda experimentisati neshto sa ljushtenjem boje? Metoda sa solju ili selotejpom...

za kasnije mozda ne bi bilo loshe da izbegnesh lepljenje japanskih oznaka kao dekala nego da ih naprskash - nisam siguran da li su ovo noviji Academy dekali ili stariji - ako su stariji, dvoslojni dekali ce izgledati predebelo na krilima i trupu!
Title: Re: ZERO FIGHTER TYPE 52C (A6M5C) 1/72 Academi
Post by: gasha on 30-01-2009, 16:29:12
Profo sto se kabine tice, mesao sam cockpit green sa zelenom, po svim tekstovima se spominje da je to najslicnija boja. Treba uzeti u obzir da se drasticno razlikovala po serijama, isla je cak do sive. Potamneo sam je jos malo i posle mata mi lici na onu sa slike koju sam uzeo za reper.

Nakon malo smirglanja i produbljivanje pojedinih panela, ofarbao sam ga u srebrno, da Sendman, bice ovde guljenja prljana i svega ostalog  za sta je ovaj avion bogom dan  >:D.


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Ostaje da se susi do veceras, a potom krece prava akcija.
Title: Re: ZERO FIGHTER TYPE 52C (A6M5C) 1/72 Academi
Post by: Eraser on 30-01-2009, 16:48:34
Uuu lepo mu je sela ta "metalna" boja  ;D

Aj cekam nastavak jer ja volim Japance,a znam da ces ti ovo majstorski da odradis :)
Title: Re: ZERO FIGHTER TYPE 52C (A6M5C) 1/72 Academi
Post by: Sandman on 30-01-2009, 17:10:25
koju si srebrnu koristio?

a spiner i elisu si farbao kojom bojom da dobijesh onu japansku red-brown?
Title: Re: ZERO FIGHTER TYPE 52C (A6M5C) 1/72 Academi
Post by: gasha on 30-01-2009, 21:21:59
@sandman Srebrna MM ali razredjena nitrom, tanak sloj. za braon elisu savrseno odgovara rust MM, Kada je poredis sa fotkama izgleda bash isto. Ta boja inace nikada i nije mnogo licila na rdju ;) Preko srebrne sada sledi pronto pa susenje do ujutru, da se dobro stegne.  Potom pastom za zube maskiram vece povrsine koje se ljuste. manje cu guliti skalpelom i smirglom.
Title: Re: ZERO FIGHTER TYPE 52C (A6M5C) 1/72 Academi
Post by: gasha on 02-02-2009, 21:22:48
Izbor boja bio je po nekim poredjenjima japanskih boja sa FS standardom. Po tom izboru uzeta je zelena i siva. Zelena za kabinu i stajni trap je odaokativno napravljena, i verujem da ce biti primedbi, ali takva je kakva je i tu vise nema promena. Obzirom da na netu nema dve makete isto ofarbane ja cu se zadovoljiti ovim. Ostaje da se polepe dekali do kraja, potom pronto pa ostarevanje dekala i finalni wash.
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Title: Re: ZERO FIGHTER TYPE 52C (A6M5C) 1/72 Academi
Post by: Goran A. on 02-02-2009, 21:35:24
Dobar je ! Ja bih mu dodao jos malo koncentrisanih sicusnih ogrebotina a ti kako hoces. Valja i ovako!
Title: Re: ZERO FIGHTER TYPE 52C (A6M5C) 1/72 Academi
Post by: PELE on 03-02-2009, 10:06:04
Ma super je! :o

Samo me zanima koju si zelenu i sivu koristio. ;D



Pozz
Title: Re: ZERO FIGHTER TYPE 52C (A6M5C) 1/72 Academi
Post by: Gusha on 03-02-2009, 12:40:43
Gaso, odlicno oguljen i zaprljan, ajde odradi idekale pa da se veselimo!
Title: Re: ZERO FIGHTER TYPE 52C (A6M5C) 1/72 Academi
Post by: Eraser on 03-02-2009, 13:48:40
Ti si bas brz :) nema kod tebe cile mile samo se radi :)
Title: Re: ZERO FIGHTER TYPE 52C (A6M5C) 1/72 Academi
Post by: gasha on 05-02-2009, 12:27:53
Evo moje  gotove ćufte.

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Title: Re: ZERO FIGHTER TYPE 52C (A6M5C) 1/72 Academi
Post by: Sandman on 05-02-2009, 12:33:40
kad pre!? :D

jesi li za japanske oznake lepio dekale, ili si prskao "cufte"?
chini mi se na gornjem delu krila kao da wash nije mnogo preshao preko oznaka... il je samo tako na slikama?

chiping je ok samo mi se maaalko chini jednak tj. nekako uravnotezen u smislu izgleda samih oguljotina...
koju si metodu koristio za guljenje farbe?
Title: Re: ZERO FIGHTER TYPE 52C (A6M5C) 1/72 Academi
Post by: gasha on 05-02-2009, 12:42:17
Par fotki je uradjeno pre dodatnog washa na dekalima, potkrale su se ovde posto ih nisam skinuo sa aparata. Nisam farbao cufte decali su dosta debeli i dvoslojni ali sam ih ipak razmeksao. Wash se nije bas najbolje primio na svakom mestu ali dodacemo to kasnije. Iskoristio sam lep dan za slikanje. Guljenje je radjeno sa vise metoda, pasta za zube, selotejp, olovka, skalpel. Sve sam upotrebio. Ne znam na sta mislis kada kazes da su slicne fleke, ja sam i smo pljuskao pa kako ispadnu. Ako su slicne onda su se same tako namestile, ja ih nisam terao  ;D  Evo jos par boljih fotki
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Title: Re: ZERO FIGHTER TYPE 52C (A6M5C) 1/72 Academi
Post by: Kerber on 05-02-2009, 13:47:16
Ajde mu ofarbaj izzduvnike, po 3 kom iza kapotaza motora.
Na pravom Zerou su jako vreli tokom rada, pa brzo zardjaju. Toliko su vreli i oni i gasovi, da ima ispod svakog od njih po komad celicne ploce da ne greju i eventualno upale nesto ispred kabine, a tu su i naoruzanje i municija i rezervoar ulja...

Mozda bi bilo bolje da si chipping radio samo selotejpom i skalpelom/iglom...kaod ovih tecnih zastita kao sto su kaladont, kvasac, maskol, ostaju malo zaobljenije ivice, pa mi malo ne deluje bas uverljivo...Selotejp je za Japoneske letilice - Majka Mara.  ;)
Zavrsi ga pa u Galeriju da ide.

Pozz !
Title: Re: ZERO FIGHTER TYPE 52C (A6M5C) 1/72 Academi
Post by: Profa on 05-02-2009, 21:25:57
Lepo ovo, gasho, lepo!
Jedino što bi mu još, što reče Kerber, trebalo definitivno obojiti izduvnike (definitivno nisu bili zeleni ::)) i možda malo dodati izduvnih gasove - s' obzirom da je tako lepo izguljen i ima 5 pobeda nema logike da mitroljezi, topovi i motor nisu korišćeni... :-\
Al' zato mi antena mnogo dopada :o
Title: Re: ZERO FIGHTER TYPE 52C (A6M5C) 1/72 Academi
Post by: Kerber on 05-02-2009, 21:58:20
I topcici treba da se zamene...definitvo nisu ovaki. Najbolje je zameniti ih medicinskom iglom (zelena plastika), koju prvo uzaris na vatrici, pa onda malo pomocu igle za sivenje, malo veceg precnika, pomognute cekicem, umetanjem u ravni kraj i laganim udarcem (do dva-tri), nacinis trubast kraj.
I "mitoljezi" mu nisu bas cevke, nego na krajevima ove cevi za "ladjenje" imaju manju cev (umetnes onu iglu za insulin, najtanju).
I onda, ja vise nemam sta da zamerim...
Pozz !!
Title: Re: ZERO FIGHTER TYPE 52C (A6M5C) 1/72 Academi
Post by: gasha on 11-02-2009, 19:27:24
malo sam u guzvanjcu, bice doradjen prema iznetim zapazanjima ;)
Title: Re: ZERO FIGHTER TYPE 52C (A6M5C) 1/72 Academi
Post by: gasha on 20-02-2009, 16:13:43
Evo pale su ispravke stvari na koje ste mi ukazali. Topovi i mitraljezi su napravljeni od igli. Igle za topove sam grejao pa silom rasirio na vrhu kako bi dobio izgled "levka". Igle sa mitraljese sam lagano secicama pritiskao i vrteo u krug dok nisu pukle. Na taj nacin se dobija izgled koji poseca na pravi mitraljez.Nisam hteo da umecem iglu za insulin posto se onda otvor nije video, nekako mi ova metoda za ovaj model vise pase. Panele iza izduvnika sam potamneo i zagaravio kao u pokusaju da se docara lim koji je duze vreme izlozen visokoj temperaturi. Evo slikica pa procenite sami.

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Title: Re: ZERO FIGHTER TYPE 52C (A6M5C) 1/72 Academi
Post by: Dada on 20-02-2009, 19:17:56
Fino, fino. Pregledaj samo spoj levog horizontalca malo je cudan. Mada ako te mrzi ostavljaj ga vise :)
Ja bih malo drugacije koncentrisao oshtecenja... Kada mu je kapot tako stradao, onda bi sigurno i napadne ivice u polju elise popile... Ostecenja radim sa kuhinjskom soli (solju) po meni se lepsi efekat dobije. 
Videcem da ako kapne neka kintica uhvatim i ja jednog zeke-a... Pa da se pridruzujem.
Title: Re: ZERO FIGHTER TYPE 52C (A6M5C) 1/72 Academi
Post by: menestenasli on 21-02-2009, 20:24:00
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lepo,lepo, ali promakao ti je ovaj detalj.