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Kampanje => 2009. godina => Završene kampanje => "Ćufte - nekad i sad" => Topic started by: Sandman on 06-01-2009, 19:53:34

Title: Fujimi 1/72 D4Y3 "Judy" + Hasegawa 1/72 Toyota GB Starter Truck
Post by: Sandman on 06-01-2009, 19:53:34
Evo mog kandidata za kampanju "Cufte"... maketa koju sam dobio na poklon od Goxyja (fala bato ;))...

U pitanju je bombarder za obrushavanje Yokosuka D4Y3 Suisei (kometa), u saveznichkoj terminologiji poznatiji kao "Judy".

D4Y3 je verzija sa radijalnim motorom, i potpuno drugachijim nosnim delom od prethodne dve verzije - D4Y1 i D4Y2.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day00-01.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day00-01.jpg)

delovi su rasporedjeni na 3 rama + prozirni ram... iako je starija maketa u pitanju panelizacija je ugravirana i jako fino izgleda... kokpit je malo siromashan a i sedishta nisu oblika kakvog bi trebala biti, tako da ce tu pasti malo detaljisanja, ali ne preteranog jer je poklopac kabine (inache reshetkast skroz) dat u zatvorenom polozaju, tako da se detalji nece mnogo ni videti na kraju...

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day00-02.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day00-02.jpg)

prema vishe referentnih slika sam primetio da je ovaj avion imao jako izguljenu farbu oko kabine i po vertikalcu tako da cu ovde verovatno isprobavati tehniku chipinga farbe solju, kao shto je to Lanmi vec demonstrirao na jednoj svojoj maketi pre izvesnog vremena....


uz Judy sam nabavio i Hasegawin Toyota GB kamion za startovanje avionskih motora na stajankama... Naime, D4Y3 su poletali i sa kopna, pa mi je pala na pamet ideja da ovaj avion dopunim sa kamionchetom na stajanci... nisam siguran josh da li ce osovina za pokretanje motora pasovati visini nosnog dela D4Y3, no bice zanimljivo videti ih na postolju zajedno ;)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Hasegawa%201-72%20Toyota%20GB/th_Day00-01.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Hasegawa%201-72%20Toyota%20GB/Day00-01.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Hasegawa%201-72%20Toyota%20GB/th_Day00-02.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Hasegawa%201-72%20Toyota%20GB/Day00-02.jpg)

ovo je za sada samo prikaz ove dve makete, radovi ce krenuti kad mi stignu potrebne boje.. dotle se bacam na ostale projekte i kampanje ;)
Title: Re: Fujimi 1/72 D4Y3 "Judy" + Hasegawa 1/72 Toyota GB Starter Truck
Post by: gasha on 11-01-2009, 10:47:18
ovo vozilo nisam video. Interesantno, sta su ti Japanci. Sve robotizovano ;D
Title: Re: Fujimi 1/72 D4Y3 "Judy" + Hasegawa 1/72 Toyota GB Starter Truck
Post by: Goran A. on 18-01-2009, 19:41:33
Nisam bas siguran da ti ovo vozilo odgovara, jedino ako je imao akumulatore jer ti je ovaj startovao na anlaser.
Title: Re: Fujimi 1/72 D4Y3 "Judy" + Hasegawa 1/72 Toyota GB Starter Truck
Post by: Dada on 18-01-2009, 19:50:55
Heh, da ovaj nije imao razrezanu glavcinu za kurblu...
Title: Re: Fujimi 1/72 D4Y3 "Judy" + Hasegawa 1/72 Toyota GB Starter Truck
Post by: Sandman on 29-03-2009, 18:17:02
konachno zvanichno zapocheh radove na Judy - kamionche ipak necu raditi za kampanju, tako da ce ostati kao usputni projekat za neki drugi japanski avion u buducnosti ;)

za pochetak sam zaoblio naslone sedishta jer su ovi chetvrtasti, kako su dati u maketi pogreshni... zapravo trebalo bi ovde josh mnogo rada, ali sam reshio da se na ovoj maketi ne igram mnogo sa doradama - verovatno samo josh pojaseve za vezivanje da stavim od Tamiya trake....

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day01-01.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day01-01.jpg)

bokovi kokpita su mi delovali jako prazno i ravno - ipak je ovo starija maketa - tako da sam ih obogatio reshetkama od istanjenog sprua....

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day01-02.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day01-02.jpg)

za sad ovoliko... slede pojasevi na sedishtima i farbanje kokpita, instrument table,.....
Title: Re: Fujimi 1/72 D4Y3 "Judy" + Hasegawa 1/72 Toyota GB Starter Truck
Post by: Dada on 29-03-2009, 18:20:10
Sta su ti Japanci... Ljudi imali fotelje u kokpitima :)
Konacno da se i ti probudis sa radovima :P mozda bi mogao ako imas knjizice da vidis komande gasa flapsova i ostalih zezancija, mislim da su dosta vidljive na bokovima...
Title: Re: Fujimi 1/72 D4Y3 "Judy" + Hasegawa 1/72 Toyota GB Starter Truck
Post by: Sandman on 29-03-2009, 18:21:51
e da, mozda dodam i to... imam par fotki kokpita kao i "rendgen presek" aviona....

mada se necu preterano truditi vishe od toga jer je poklopac kabine dosta reshetkast.... i ovi bokovi su slichno kao na Thunderboltu, slabo vidljivi kad se trup sklopi!
Title: Re: Fujimi 1/72 D4Y3 "Judy" + Hasegawa 1/72 Toyota GB Starter Truck
Post by: Sandman on 05-04-2009, 19:35:39
par detalja u kokpitu

- rezervni sharzeri za mitraljez (kako mi se chini prema referencama, mada ova verzija Judy ne nosi izgleda taj zadnji mitraljez, ali detalji obogacuju kokpit pa nek ide ovako) :P :D - to su ovi zeleni prstenchici na bokovima....
-  od istanjenog sprua napravljeno neshto shto lichi na ronilachke boce (ili protivpozarni aparat?) - to su ove tri "shipkice"....
- kocka od braon plastike je prema referenci kao neki paket obmotan kaishevima, stavio sam ovaj detalj chisto da se malo popuni praznina u kokpitu.....

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day02-01.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day02-01.jpg)

ostaje samo josh kaisheve na sedishtima da napravim od Tamiya trake, i mozda koju ruchku na bokovima....
Title: Re: Fujimi 1/72 D4Y3 "Judy" + Hasegawa 1/72 Toyota GB Starter Truck
Post by: Dada on 05-04-2009, 21:11:55
Znaci pocelo je :D Fino popunjavas kokpit i ja sam u slicnim zezancijama trenutno :)
One 3 boce bi trebalo da su kiseonicke, mada moguce je da je jedna od njih pp aparat, a mozda i nesto 3. pa ispadnem jackass :D ...
Title: Re: Fujimi 1/72 D4Y3 "Judy" + Hasegawa 1/72 Toyota GB Starter Truck
Post by: djos & filip on 05-04-2009, 21:18:24
Lepo napreduje....jest malko usporeno  ;)

Mada moram priznati, jedva cekam farbaru, japanci su mi uvek problematicni i pravi izazov (od citava dva koja sam do sada uradio  ;D  )
Samo napred

pozdrav
Title: Re: Fujimi 1/72 D4Y3 "Judy" + Hasegawa 1/72 Toyota GB Starter Truck
Post by: Sandman on 26-04-2009, 17:47:25
posle Moshona naishla inspiracija za nastavak radova :D

kokpit ofarban, washovan i drajbrashovan... srebrnom olovkom uradjen suptilni chiping...

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day03-01.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day03-01.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day03-02.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day03-02.jpg)

instrument tabla takodje gotova, gloss lakom samo simulirana stakla preko instrumenata....

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day03-03.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day03-03.jpg)

tabla postavljena na svoje mesto....

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day03-04.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day03-04.jpg)

sledi spajanje kokpita sa polutkama trupa....
Title: Re: Fujimi 1/72 D4Y3 "Judy" + Hasegawa 1/72 Toyota GB Starter Truck
Post by: Sandman on 28-05-2009, 21:02:21
nastavak radova.....

u medjuchekanjima da se zagitovani spojevi na trupu sushe, bacio sam se na malo obogacivanje nogu stajnog trapa....

naime, na nogama se nalazi hidraulika koja naravno na maketi nije predstavljena

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day04-01.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day04-01.jpg)

pa sam reshio da istu napravim od licnaste zice....

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day04-02.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day04-02.jpg)

mislim da sam poprilichno uspeo da docharam ovaj detalj...

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day04-03.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day04-03.jpg)

nakon par nedelja svakodnevnog gitoshmirglanja doveo sam maketu u ovo stanje....

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day04-04.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day04-04.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day04-05.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day04-05.jpg)

na spoju trupa i krila (iza krila) je bio prvi problematichni spoj koji me je poprilichno namuchio.. mada se vidi i na nosnom delu (ispred krila) dosta gita.... sve izgubljene linije panela su preurezane a par komada sam izbrisao jer ne treba da postoje tu gde su ih kalupom napravili....

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day04-06.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day04-06.jpg)

motor farban u MM Steel pa washovan sa tushem za rapidografe, i drajbrashovan aluminijumom....

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day04-07.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day04-07.jpg)

mali pogled na kokpit nakon zatvaranja istog u dubine trupa :)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day04-08.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day04-08.jpg)

sada, nadam se, sledi lakshi deo posla - lepljenje horizontalaca i vertikalca, i konachne pripreme za prajmer i farbanje...
Title: Re: Fujimi 1/72 D4Y3 "Judy" + Hasegawa 1/72 Toyota GB Starter Truck
Post by: Kerber on 28-05-2009, 21:23:05
Dobro si stigao dovde.
Kad se Japonezi lose uklapaju, a Hasegawa zna to da nam ponekad uradi, to je obicno posla kao i kod neke short run makete...nagutam se prasine ko auto da sredjujem...jos kad se padne i ona odvratna zelena plastika, tvrda ko staklo....

Sad ide laganica. Zavrsi ga tokom leta, ima jos toga da se radi, a duzan si i fotke onog Starfightera ovde..... :D
Title: Re: Fujimi 1/72 D4Y3 "Judy" + Hasegawa 1/72 Toyota GB Starter Truck
Post by: Sandman on 28-05-2009, 21:31:46
Quote from: Kerber on 28-05-2009, 21:23:05
Dobro si stigao dovde.
Kad se Japonezi lose uklapaju, a Hasegawa zna to da nam ponekad uradi, to je obicno posla kao i kod neke short run makete...nagutam se prasine ko auto da sredjujem...jos kad se padne i ona odvratna zelena plastika, tvrda ko staklo....

ma dobro, nije toliko strashno... samo dosadno do bola svaki dan shmirglati i gitovati a nikako da malko vishe odmaknesh od pochetka :D

chekam samo Goxyja da zapochne jednog dana onu drugu Fujimijevu Judy....  >:D :hahaha

videcu samo ako uspem da malko zabushim izduvne cevi mada su jako pripijene uz kapotaz motora....

ali u globalu to je to... samo josh lepljenje par glavnih delova i idemo na prajmerovanje...

a juche mi konachno stigao i onaj "klik-klik" adapter za Azteka tako da konachno uskoro sledi montiranje novog creva na kompresor i pushtanje u pogon nove "igrachke" - H&S Evo 2in1.... :)

bice na ovoj maketi dosta experimentisanja ;)

Quote
Sad ide laganica. Zavrsi ga tokom leta, ima jos toga da se radi, a duzan si i fotke onog Starfightera ovde..... :D

polako, bice i Starfighter  0:) josh nije odputovao na svoje konachno odredishte.... kad on ode tamo, stizu slike ovde! ;) :P
Title: Re: Fujimi 1/72 D4Y3 "Judy" + Hasegawa 1/72 Toyota GB Starter Truck
Post by: Dada on 04-06-2009, 22:21:33
Koliko si kuk'o, veoma lepo izgleda :) Svidja mi se sto nisi sredio detalje tolikim smirglanjem. Nema sta pedantno.
kada stignes lagano na farbanjac, ima da bude lutkica... sta, moracu jednom prilikom da nabavim jos kojeg Japaneza kada sredim prskalicu.
Cekamo napredak! :)
Title: Re: Fujimi 1/72 D4Y3 "Judy" + Hasegawa 1/72 Toyota GB Starter Truck
Post by: Sandman on 04-06-2009, 23:16:31
srecom pa nije bilo mnogo detalja oko delova koji su popili sadrzaj meshalice za beton :D ...
svega par linija panela koje sam preurezao, a par linija je brisano na nosnom delu (oko uvodnika za vazduh)....

sada su zalepljeni i horizontalci i vertikalac, i maskiran je poklopac kabine....

sledi farbanje ramova poklopca sa unutrashnje strane, njegovo lepljenje za trup, farbanje prostora za stajni trap u Aotake plavu i maskiranje istog, i krecemo polako sa prajmerovanjem ;)
Title: Re: Fujimi 1/72 D4Y3 "Judy" + Hasegawa 1/72 Toyota GB Starter Truck
Post by: Sandman on 08-06-2009, 20:10:53
vertikalac i horizontalci zalepljeni i spojevi sredjeni surfejserom...

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day05-01.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day05-01.jpg)

poklopac kabine maskiran Tamiya trakom....

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day05-02.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day05-02.jpg)

...i chetkicom ofarban sa unutrashnje strane...

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day05-03.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day05-03.jpg)

prostor za stajni trap, noge i poklopci stajnog trapa isprskani sa akrilnom Gunze Aotake (Metallic Blue Green)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day05-04.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day05-04.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day05-05.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day05-05.jpg)

poklopac kabine zalepljen na trup....

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day05-06.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day05-06.jpg)

josh par pripremnih koraka i krecem sa nanoshenjem prajmera (osnovnog sloja pre farbanja)....
Title: Re: Fujimi 1/72 D4Y3 "Judy" + Hasegawa 1/72 Toyota GB Starter Truck
Post by: Warhawk on 08-06-2009, 20:47:14
この彗星は素晴らしいになります!!!  :naughty

Jako lepo ovo izgleda...

Prosto se ne zna koji je lepshi, ovaj ili D4Y2 sa rednim motorom...
Title: Re: Fujimi 1/72 D4Y3 "Judy" + Hasegawa 1/72 Toyota GB Starter Truck
Post by: PELE on 08-06-2009, 20:56:40
Mislim da je maskiranje canopy-a bio najzanimljiviji deo... ;D

Lepo izgleda za sada, samo napred.



Pozz
Title: Re: Fujimi 1/72 D4Y3 "Judy" + Hasegawa 1/72 Toyota GB Starter Truck
Post by: Dada on 08-06-2009, 21:04:14
Vidim ja da ce Shiden u musculo :D
Opako napredujes!
Title: Re: Fujimi 1/72 D4Y3 "Judy" + Hasegawa 1/72 Toyota GB Starter Truck
Post by: Sandman on 08-06-2009, 21:07:22
Quote from: warhawk on 08-06-2009, 20:47:14
Prosto se ne zna koji je lepshi, ovaj ili D4Y2 sa rednim motorom...

zanimljivi su i jedan i drugi... no obzirom da sam ovog dobio na poklon ne bunim se ;)

zanimljiv avion, malo muchan u sklapanju trupa i krila no dobro... sredilo se ....

poklopac kabine je mozda malko otishao ukrivo u odnosu na uzduznu osu jer nije dobro nalegao pa sam ga lepio "natezanjem" na zadnjem i prednjem delu.... nije mnogo ni primetno na kraju krajeva...

Quote from: PELE on 08-06-2009, 20:56:40
Mislim da je maskiranje canopy-a bio najzanimljiviji deo... ;D

posle gitoshmirglanja koje je trajalo par nedelja, sve je zanimljivo! :D

Quote from: papa_bear on 08-06-2009, 21:04:14
Vidim ja da ce Shiden u musculo :D
Opako napredujes!

polakooo.. nemoj da spremash razanj dok je zec josh u shumi ;)

tek cemo videti kako cu se snaci sa tehnikom chipinga solju....  ::)

sledi vishe slojeva prskanja farbe i zashtitnih slojeva laka zbog chipinga.. nece ovo ici bash tako brzo ;)

hvala na komentarima u svakom sluchaju!
Title: Re: Fujimi 1/72 D4Y3 "Judy" + Hasegawa 1/72 Toyota GB Starter Truck
Post by: Sandman on 11-06-2009, 20:20:06
danas je na scenu stupio Mr. Surfacer i pripremio Judy za sledecu fazu ;)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day06-01.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day06-01.jpg)

na nosnom delu se vidi jaaaako slaba linija spoja polutki trupa ali necu dirati nishta jer je zaista skoro nevidljivo - nakon farbe, chipinga i weatheringa se to verovatno nece videti mnogo, pogotovo imajuci u vidu da tu ide zelena boja kamuflaze...

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day06-02.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day06-02.jpg)

izduvne cevi motora sam malo zabushio pre par dana ali zaboravih da slikam...

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day06-03.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day06-03.jpg)

na donjem delu trupa se jedino na zadnjem delu - u predelu zakrilaca, i iza onog "prozorcheta" na trbuhu - pomalo vidi linija spoja... to je deo koji me je najvishe i muchio u fazi sklapanja makete, i posle par nedelja gitovanja, eto i dalje se malko vidi spoj, ali zaista ne zelim da diram nishta vishe jer je ne toliko uochljivo - jeste vidljivo ali ne tako jako, tako da cu ostaviti ovako kako jeste...

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day06-04.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day06-04.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day06-05.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day06-05.jpg)

sledeci korak ce biti najverovatnije prskanje cele makete u boju aluminijuma, kao osnovu za chiping kasnije....

kazem, najverovatnije, jer se dvoumim oko redosleda prskanja aluminijuma i zute boje na napadnim ivicama krila - zbog chipinga bih najradije radio prvo aluminijum pa onda zutu, ali onda me cheka maskiranje i zashtitni sloj Future-a iz vishe koraka zbog chipinga... videcu josh...
Title: Re: Fujimi 1/72 D4Y3 "Judy" + Hasegawa 1/72 Toyota GB Starter Truck
Post by: Trutek on 11-06-2009, 20:26:05
Kojim surfacerom si spricao i kako...jesi ga razrjedivao necime, spricao si sa ABom???
Title: Re: Fujimi 1/72 D4Y3 "Judy" + Hasegawa 1/72 Toyota GB Starter Truck
Post by: Sandman on 11-06-2009, 20:38:49
koristio sam Surfacer 1000, i prskao ga pomocu Aztek erbrasha - high flow dizna (tirkizna).... razredjivao sam ga sa Gunze thinnerom (mada i nitro razredjivach radi posao!), otprilike 50-50 odnos, medjutim pojavio mi se u prvih par minuta prskanja onaj i od ranije neobjashnjiv fenomen - na jachem pritisku se u kontaktu sa plastikom od Surfejsera stvara "pauchina"  ??? kada sam dodao josh malo thinnera i prskao na stranu, izgleda se smesha sredila kako treba i posle je bilo ok....

ako neko zna da objasni ovu pojavu bilo bi super, jer se javlja rizik prskanja "pauchine" direktno na vece povrshine kao shto je cela maketa .. srecom pa sam prvo prskao na delove koji su josh uvek bili na ramovima (pito cev i antena)

pretpostavljam da se za bolje efekte Surfejser treba razrediti na gustinu mleka....
Title: Re: Fujimi 1/72 D4Y3 "Judy" + Hasegawa 1/72 Toyota GB Starter Truck
Post by: djos & filip on 12-06-2009, 02:04:01
Super napredujes, a sto se tice gresaka koje navodis, mozda su pod mikroskopom stvarno vrlo uocljive   :hahaha

Jedva cekam da vidim farbu na ovom lepotanu.   :bravo

Pozdrav 
Title: Re: Fujimi 1/72 D4Y3 "Judy" + Hasegawa 1/72 Toyota GB Starter Truck
Post by: Warhawk on 12-06-2009, 09:40:56
Meni se isto stvara ta pauchina, ja je samo posle oduvam praznim airbrushom.
Title: Re: Fujimi 1/72 D4Y3 "Judy" + Hasegawa 1/72 Toyota GB Starter Truck
Post by: Sandman on 12-06-2009, 09:58:59
Quote from: warhawk on 12-06-2009, 09:40:56
Meni se isto stvara ta pauchina, ja je samo posle oduvam praznim airbrushom.

kad sam prva 2-3 puta koristio Surfejser kao prajmer, nije mi se deshavalo ovo sa "pauchinom"...

nisam sasvim siguran da li je to do:

- njegove razredjenosti/gustine jer sam zbog gushce smeshe (pre nego shto sam ga josh malo razredio) morao da koristim jachi pritisak (>1 bar)

ili

- posledica Gunze thinnera kojim sam prvo "produvao" diznu pre prskanja Surfejsera....

ovo drugo mi pada na pamet kao mogucnost jer sam video da je efekat pauchine kod vojnih vozila jedan lik uradio koristeci nitro razredjivach uz, sada se vishe ne secam, neku boju ili lak... mozda je to samo neka hemijska reakcija  :-\

u svakom sluchaju sledece prajmerovanje Surfejserom cu probati u startu sa gustinom mleka, pa cemo videti da li se i onda stvara ovaj, ne bash prijatan efekat....
Title: Re: Fujimi 1/72 D4Y3 "Judy" + Hasegawa 1/72 Toyota GB Starter Truck
Post by: Dada on 12-06-2009, 14:43:54
Mozda se prebrzo sushi, pa lepi takvu povrsinu na maketu!? mislim jos dok je u letu izmedju dizne i plastike?
Inace lep napredak, konacno izgleda kao avionce :D
Title: Re: Fujimi 1/72 D4Y3 "Judy" + Hasegawa 1/72 Toyota GB Starter Truck
Post by: Sandman on 12-06-2009, 18:57:13
danas sam odradio jedan korak koji mozda nece ni biti vidljiv, niti ce kasnije imati nekog velikog efekta, ali znatizelja je chudo :)

elem, naprskao sam Gunmetal bojom preshading po linijama panela - zelim da isprobam da li ce to mozda malko istaci linije panela na aluminijumu koji ide preko ovoga... ali tek kasnije - na kraju - kad zavrshim i kamuflazu i sam chiping... znachi ideja je da se na oguljenim delovima primete suptilno istaknute linije panela....

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day07-01.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day07-01.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day07-02.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day07-02.jpg)

razmishljao sam da sledeci korak - aluminijum - uradim sa MM metalajzerima, ali sam odustao iz razloga shto ako se omashkom predje vishe puta isto mesto, metalajzeri na jako nepredvidiv nachin umeju da naprave "brazge" na povrshini... tako da ce posluziti obichan enamel MM Aluminium.... narednih dana sledi to i lakiranje Future-om kao zashtita za sledece korake maskiranja i posipanja soli....
Title: Re: Fujimi 1/72 D4Y3 "Judy" + Hasegawa 1/72 Toyota GB Starter Truck
Post by: Sandman on 14-06-2009, 18:11:54
mislim da sam postigao zeljeni efekat sa preshadingom pomocu gunmetal boje ;)

na spineru i poklopcima stanog trapa se oko urezanih linija "panela" vidi tamniji sloj gunmetala ispod aluminijuma (MM enamel Aluminium sam koristio)....

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day08-01.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day08-01.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day08-02.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day08-02.jpg)

na celom avionu se takodje sada vidi taj efekat - kad budem odradio guljenje kamuflazne zelene na pojedinim mestima, tamo gde su linije panela, videce se varijacije boje metala kao posledica preshadinga... + wash koi bude pao preko svega trebalo bi da da dodatnu draz... videcemo koliko sam bio u pravu kad sam se odluchio na ovaj korak, ali dok se ne isproba ne moze se saznati shta ce biti na kraju ;)

u svakom sluchaju, deluje mi ok....

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day08-03.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day08-03.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day08-04.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day08-04.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day08-05.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day08-05.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day08-06.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day08-06.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day08-07.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day08-07.jpg)

sledi zashtitni sloj Future-a, a zatim maskiranje krila za napadne ivice koje idu u zutu boju - na tom delu ce prvi put pasti sloj soli i uchenje ove tehnike chipinga....
Title: Re: Fujimi 1/72 D4Y3 "Judy" + Hasegawa 1/72 Toyota GB Starter Truck
Post by: JUNKERS on 14-06-2009, 18:16:57
Jako lepo svaka cast. Super ce izgledati. :super
Title: Re: Fujimi 1/72 D4Y3 "Judy" + Hasegawa 1/72 Toyota GB Starter Truck
Post by: PELE on 14-06-2009, 18:20:23
Odlicno, nema sta!

Jedva cekam zelenu!


Pozz
Title: Re: Fujimi 1/72 D4Y3 "Judy" + Hasegawa 1/72 Toyota GB Starter Truck
Post by: Warhawk on 14-06-2009, 19:20:03
WOW  :-X

Prosto gre'ota da ovo preprskash zelenom...
Title: Re: Fujimi 1/72 D4Y3 "Judy" + Hasegawa 1/72 Toyota GB Starter Truck
Post by: Sandman on 05-07-2009, 19:03:59
malecki nastavak radova...

poshto sam na ovoj fotografiji video da na delu noge stajnog trapa oko amortizera stoji (verovatno platnena) prekrivka...

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day04-01.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day04-01.jpg)

...reshio sam da taj detalj odradim i na maketi... uz pomoc papirne maramice i malo drvofixa razredjenog sa malo vode....

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day09-01.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day09-01.jpg)
Title: Re: Fujimi 1/72 D4Y3 "Judy" + Hasegawa 1/72 Toyota GB Starter Truck
Post by: Warhawk on 05-07-2009, 19:32:14
Reci mi jednu stvar, da li je instrument tabla u pozitivu ili se dobija samo dekal na ravnoj povrsini?
Title: Re: Fujimi 1/72 D4Y3 "Judy" + Hasegawa 1/72 Toyota GB Starter Truck
Post by: Sandman on 05-07-2009, 19:39:11
Quote from: warhawk on 05-07-2009, 19:32:14
Reci mi jednu stvar, da li je instrument tabla u pozitivu ili se dobija samo dekal na ravnoj povrsini?

instrumenti su izliveni u pozitivu, ne dobija se dekal sa instrumentima - lichno mi se vishe svidja ovakvo reshenje - iako deo izgleda siromashno dok je na ramu, kad se ofarba i drajbrashuje skroz odlichno izgleda - imash sliku na prvoj strani ovog topika... ;)
Title: Re: Fujimi 1/72 D4Y3 "Judy" + Hasegawa 1/72 Toyota GB Starter Truck
Post by: Warhawk on 05-07-2009, 19:43:23
Znam video sam, mada mi je instrument tabla u pozitivu jako netipična za Fujimi/ Hasegawa makete...

Najviše mrzim kad maketa za koju puknem 20+ evra ima tu samo dekal  >:(
Title: Re: Fujimi 1/72 D4Y3 "Judy" + Hasegawa 1/72 Toyota GB Starter Truck
Post by: Sandman on 05-07-2009, 19:51:50
Quote from: warhawk on 05-07-2009, 19:43:23
Znam video sam, mada mi je instrument tabla u pozitivu jako netipična za Fujimi/ Hasegawa makete...

moguce da je ovo zato shto je stara maketa?  ::) :-\

Quote
Najviše mrzim kad maketa za koju puknem 20+ evra ima tu samo dekal  >:(

bolje i to nego da dobijesh ravnu instrument tablu bez ikakvih detalja a na tabli sa dekalima nema instrument table kao dekala!!  :naughty
Title: Re: Fujimi 1/72 D4Y3 "Judy" + Hasegawa 1/72 Toyota GB Starter Truck
Post by: sezan on 06-07-2009, 00:39:10
Preshading si toliko dobro "dozirao" da nemam reci! :godTaman koliko treba!Ja se jos uvek mucim sa "jacinom" istog! :think
Title: Re: Fujimi 1/72 D4Y3 "Judy" + Hasegawa 1/72 Toyota GB Starter Truck
Post by: Sandman on 06-07-2009, 08:40:34
preshading i ova aluminium boja su uradjeni ovako - direktno preko surfejser podloge - samo iz razloga shto mi trebaju za efekat chipinga tj. guljenja kasnije boje kamuflaze ;)

poshto do sada nisam mnogo eksperimentisao sa bojama metala na celoj povrshini aviona, kapiram da bi josh bolji efekat preshading imao da je podloga ispod njega i ovog aluminiuma zapravo bila gloss crna! Boje metala bi tako dobile na dubini, jer ako primetish na panelima na krilima se ipak jasno vidi pod odredjenim uglom da je podloga ispod sive boje ;)

zapravo, gledajuci maketu iz vishe uglova, drugachije se vidi konachni finish - stvar refleksije samo... ;)

videcemo koliko ce ovo moje igranje sa preshadingom imati efekta kasnije kad uradim guljenje kamuflaze... nadam se da nije bi ouzaludan korak... nego nikako da se nakanim ovih dana da preprskam Future kao zashtitni sloj za maskiranje - slede one zute napadne ivice i oznake.... tu cu se prvi put susresti sa tehnikom chipinga boje solju....
Title: Re: Fujimi 1/72 D4Y3 "Judy" + Hasegawa 1/72 Toyota GB Starter Truck
Post by: gasha on 06-07-2009, 10:48:20
Ajde bre zavrsavaj to. Tvoja kampanja a probices vreme  D:)

Daj da ga vidim gotovog pa onda koment.
Title: Re: Fujimi 1/72 D4Y3 "Judy" + Hasegawa 1/72 Toyota GB Starter Truck
Post by: Sandman on 07-11-2009, 20:38:57
poshto se Goxy aktivirao i delje onog Shokija sve u shesn'es', red je da ga sustignem...  :D

josh letos, maketa je prelakirana Future-om, i stajala je u kutiji do danas....

danas sam maskirao napadne ivice krila, pripremivshi ih ovako za farbanje zute boje, ali pre farbanja, usledice neshto drugo...

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day10-01.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day10-01.jpg)

pre farbanje zute, usledilo je nanoshenje soli, jer zelim da na ovoj maketi simuliram ogrebanu i izguljenu farbu na mnogo mesta - naime, prema nekim slikama uradjene makete sa ovim oznakama i profilima koje mi sluze kao referenca, vidi se da je ovaj aparat bio u poprilichno istroshenom stanju po pitanju farbe..

dakle, na ovoj maketi sam po prvi put u dosadashnjem radu isprobao tzv. tehniku "salt chipping"... pratio sam slike Lanmijevog Kawanishija koji je radio pre par godina - prvo sam chetkicu zamochio u vodu u koju je sipano malo deterdzenta za sudove (kako bi se voda zadrzala na gloss podlozi), i njom nakvasio napadnu ivicu... zatim sam taj deo lagano "posolio" kuhinjskom solju.... treba voditi rachuna da se ne nakvasi previshe podloga, jer ce onda doci do topljenja kristala soli i efekat nece biti toliko dobar...

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day10-02.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day10-02.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day10-03.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day10-03.jpg)

ovako naneta so moze se "doraditi" pomocu chachkalice ili tanke chetkice, tamo gde treba ukloniti vishak, ili premestiti kristale tamo gde zelimo....

maketu sam odlozio na stranu da voda ispari, i da se kristali soli ochvrsnu na podlozi kako ih kasnije boja iz erbrasha ne bi oduvala sa podloge....

zatim sam naneo akrilnu Gunze H24 zutu, razredjenu na gustinu mleka sa Gunze thinnerom...

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day10-04.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day10-04.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day10-05.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day10-05.jpg)

josh jednom se pokazalo da Gunze zaista ima vrhunske proizvode - boja, iako jako retka, lepo je iz vishe slojeva pokrila aluminium podlogu, a osushila se za svega 10-ak minuta na dodir - dovoljno da maske i so mogu da se uklone...chak je boja bila toliko suva da se nakon uklanjanja soli moglo krpicom bez bojazni prelaziti preko napadne ivice trljajucim pokretima, kako bi se to zuto polje "ispoliralo" od neravnina nastalih usled uklanjanja kristala soli.... tu je na scenu nastupio josh jedan Gunze proizvod - "Mr. Krpa" :D tj. "krpa" napravljena kao mikromrezica, ne moze da ogrebe i zguli boju, ali mikronski skida neravnine sa podloge... odlichno za popravljanje sitnih neravnina nakon farbanja!

konachni rezultat danashnjeg rada se vidi na sledecim slikama...

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day10-06.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day10-06.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day10-07.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day10-07.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day10-08.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day10-08.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day10-09.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day10-09.jpg)

sledi zashitno lakiranje Future-om ovih zutih polja, kako bih mogao da ih zashtitim Tamiya trakom za sledeci korak - "soljenje" linija panela na donjem i gornjem delu trupa i krila - polako idemo ka kamuflazi ;)
Title: Re: Fujimi 1/72 D4Y3 "Judy" + Hasegawa 1/72 Toyota GB Starter Truck
Post by: PELE on 08-11-2009, 23:11:10
Pozz...

Izgleda jako lepo, svidja mi se kako je legla zuta.

Mislim da nisi trebao da ofarbas prvo ove "panele" jer postoji verovatnoca da ce ti traka cupnuti deo farbe jer nije kompletno ofarbana povrsina.  :-\ Nadam se da si me razumeo sta sam hteo da kazem.

Meni se to desavalo na MiG-u 23...

A sada zelenu da vidimo! :)
Title: Re: Fujimi 1/72 D4Y3 "Judy" + Hasegawa 1/72 Toyota GB Starter Truck
Post by: Iwtcha on 09-11-2009, 08:11:48
Izvrsno urađen chipping!
Title: Re: Fujimi 1/72 D4Y3 "Judy" + Hasegawa 1/72 Toyota GB Starter Truck
Post by: Sandman on 09-11-2009, 09:32:22
Quote from: PELE on 08-11-2009, 23:11:10
Mislim da nisi trebao da ofarbas prvo ove "panele" jer postoji verovatnoca da ce ti traka cupnuti deo farbe jer nije kompletno ofarbana povrsina.  :-\ Nadam se da si me razumeo sta sam hteo da kazem.

zato sam i napisao na kraju prethodnog posta da je sledeci korak lakiranje ovih polja kao zashtita pred maskiranje ;)

juche sam chetkicom premazao ova polja u dva tanka sloja Future-om... sad se to sushi pa za koji dan krecem sa sledecom bojom - verovatno ce to biti donje povrshine....
Title: Re: Fujimi 1/72 D4Y3 "Judy" + Hasegawa 1/72 Toyota GB Starter Truck
Post by: Dada on 10-11-2009, 20:32:13
Da i ja reknem koju. :D
Za prvi pokusaj vise nego dobro. Meni deluje veoma realno, kao da je elisa stvarno dizala sljunak i ostalo djubre i bombardovala napadnu ivicu. Otprilike takav je efekat i na pravom avionu.
Ono sto bih mozda zamerio je raspored kristalcica soli, najjaca ostecenja su negde u poslednjoj trecini kruznice koju opisuje elisa. Odnosno tamo gde su kraci najsiri. Ne znam kakvu si so koristio, ali bas cudno deluje tako okrugla. Ja sam na nekim mojim eksperimentima koristio "Tuzlansku jodiranu" i bio sam vise nego zadovoljan.
Pre nego krenes dalje sa soljenjem makete, predlazem da malo proucis ovaj linkic :)
http://www.swannysmodels.com/Salting.html
Sve u svemu Srki, ne brigaj, odlicno ti ide. Nastavi ovako i nema za tebe zime. Bice to stvarno jedan opako ocerupan Japanac :D
Hai! :D
Title: Re: Fujimi 1/72 D4Y3 "Judy" + Hasegawa 1/72 Toyota GB Starter Truck
Post by: Sandman on 10-11-2009, 21:01:57
Quote from: papa_bear on 10-11-2009, 20:32:13
Ne znam kakvu si so koristio, ali bas cudno deluje tako okrugla. Ja sam na nekim mojim eksperimentima koristio "Tuzlansku jodiranu" i bio sam vise nego zadovoljan.

ne znam ko je proizvodjach soli, stoji u "noname" tegli u kuhinji :P :D

razmishljam se da malo usitnim jedan deo soli, a jedan deo da ostavim ove krupnoce, pa da probam sa tom kombinacijom  :-\

inache, nije prekrupna, a nije ni sitna kao recimo vanilin shecer u prahu, tako da sam josh uvek u rebusu shta da radim dalje....

Quote
Pre nego krenes dalje sa soljenjem makete, predlazem da malo proucis ovaj linkic :)
http://www.swannysmodels.com/Salting.html

chitao sam bash ovaj link pre prvog posipanja.... no dobro.. sve je (kao i vecina stvari u maketarstvu) samo stvar prakse ;)

za donje povrshine nisam siguran da cu ga mnogo "cherupati" sa solju, ali na krilima ispod kokpita, i na levoj polovini vertikalca bice poprilichno zguljena farba!

hvala na kritici ;)
Title: Re: Fujimi 1/72 D4Y3 "Judy" + Hasegawa 1/72 Toyota GB Starter Truck
Post by: Sandman on 14-11-2009, 21:39:02
nastavak radova....

nabavio sam malo sitniju i manje "perlastu" so, pa sam se bacio na sredjivanje donjih povrshina na Judy....

prethodno u zuto ofarbane napadne ivice maskirao sam Tamiya trakom, a zatim naneo so po pojedinim linijama panela na donjem delu trupa, krila i horizontalaca - najvishe soli sam nanosio na ivice vrata bombaluka, jer je prepostavka da se tu boja najvishe gulila...

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day11-01.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day11-01.jpg)

takodje, naneo sam so i na ovaj spoj na poklopcima tochkova jer se duz te linije otvaraju poklopci, a ovaj deo treba da se skalpelom kasnije preseche na dva dela....

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day11-02.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day11-02.jpg)

donje povrshine preprskao sam akrilnom Gunze IJN Grey, a za sredine panela sam tu istu boju posvetlio sa par kapi bele i tako dobio toniranje donjih povrshina....

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day11-03.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day11-03.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day11-04.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day11-04.jpg)

efekat oguljene boje nakon uklanjanja soli....

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day11-05.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day11-05.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day11-06.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day11-06.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day11-07.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day11-07.jpg)
Title: Re: Fujimi 1/72 D4Y3 "Judy" + Hasegawa 1/72 Toyota GB Starter Truck
Post by: Dada on 15-11-2009, 12:15:56
Realnije je u svakom slucaju ;)
Mozda je trebalo kocentrisati so blize napadnoj ivici, kada je onaz zuti deo tako ocerupan, pa da ne prestaje odjednom, ali nema veze, stvar ukusa... sve mi se vise djaSvi :)
Edit:
Jedino sto bih ja so koristio samo za ostecenja koja elisa nanese krshom...
za ovo http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day11-07.jpg bih sigurno koristio srebrnu olovku nakon matiranja...
Title: Re: Fujimi 1/72 D4Y3 "Judy" + Hasegawa 1/72 Toyota GB Starter Truck
Post by: Sandman on 15-11-2009, 12:47:42
ima malo oguljotina i na napadnoj ivici ali manje, jer kapiram, to je vec van domashaja elise pa manje peska i kamenchica sa zemlje pada na te delove.. veca je koncentracija blize trupu...

josh uvek se uchim sa ovom tehnikom, iako je so sitnija i manje okrugla, i dalje nije bash tako lako naneti je tamo gde zelish - nanosim je inache iz jednog od "kanistera" za Aztek airbrush, jer oni imaju mali "levak" kroz koji boja prolazi do dizne erbrasha, pa mi to nekako dodje ok za lagano posipanje soli.... josh samo da se so "dresira" da lepo legne i bice super :D chetkicom naravno korigujem koliko mogu nanetu so...

videcemo za gornje povrshine shta ce biti.. tu ima dosta vishe cherupanja, pogotovo oko kokpita i na levoj strani vertikalca

u chasopisu Replic no.025, nashao sam slike uradjenog Fine Molds D4Y3 u 1/48, pa ce mi to posluziti kao vodilja za chiping:

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/th_judy01.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/judy01.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/th_judy02.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/judy02.jpg)
Title: Re: Fujimi 1/72 D4Y3 "Judy" + Hasegawa 1/72 Toyota GB Starter Truck
Post by: Sandman on 20-11-2009, 17:51:11
juche sam odradio i gornji deo kamuflaze....

prvo sam postavio maske od pausa za razgranichenje gornjeg i donjeg dela kamuflaze koje je talasastog oblika

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day12-01.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day12-01.jpg)

donji deo je kompletno maskiran kako bih izbegao oversprej ofarbanih donjih povrshina....

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day12-02.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day12-02.jpg)

spremno chekamo soljenje :)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day12-03.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day12-03.jpg)

so naneta na gornje povrshine krila i horizontalaca, kao i na bokove trupa i vertikalca....

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day12-04.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day12-04.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day12-05.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day12-05.jpg)

odozgo iz vishe tankih slojeva naprskana akrilna Gunze IJN Green, a zatim po sredini panela naprskana ista ta boja posvetljena sa par kapi bele....

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day12-06.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day12-06.jpg)

i konachno poskidane sve maske sa trupa i krila.... efekat chippinga solju je malo bolje ispao nego na donjim povrshinama... i dalje nisam skroz zadovoljan uchinkom, ali mislim da sam pronashao jedan fazon za realniji izgled, ali tek pred kraj skidanja soli, tako da za to ostaje experimentisanje na sledecoj maketi koja bude trazila ovoliko guljenje farbe!

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day12-07.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day12-07.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day12-08.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day12-08.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day12-09.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day12-09.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day12-10.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day12-10.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day12-11.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day12-11.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day12-12.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day12-12.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day12-13.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day12-13.jpg)

ovde je malo zelene proshlo ispod maske... iako sam prskao pod 90 stepeni u odnosu na masku, proshlo je malo overspreja ispod maske, no nije strashno... ovo necu ispravljati jer ce naknadno doci josh prljanja i mozda po koji chiping srebrnom olovkom... + wash.... mislim da ce uminuti malo nakon svega toga....

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day12-14.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day12-14.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day12-15.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day12-15.jpg)

spiner i elisa sa prednje strane ofarbani u akrilnu Gunze H47 Red Brown, dok je elisa sa unutrashnje strane ofarbana u crno...

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day12-16.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day12-16.jpg)

slede oznake....
Title: Re: Fujimi 1/72 D4Y3 "Judy" + Hasegawa 1/72 Toyota GB Starter Truck
Post by: vlajko&marko on 20-11-2009, 18:02:18
Za sada izgleda prelepo
Title: Re: Fujimi 1/72 D4Y3 "Judy" + Hasegawa 1/72 Toyota GB Starter Truck
Post by: Dada on 20-11-2009, 20:18:09
Sta sada, ja treba da kazem "Mrtva si kokosko?" :) Odlicno si ga ocerupao, mozda bih malko vise chupnuo ramove kabine, posto je to njakano bar dva puta u toku borbenog dana :)
Sada polako na cufte :)
P.S. Hell is very close to your Judy :)
Title: Re: Fujimi 1/72 D4Y3 "Judy" + Hasegawa 1/72 Toyota GB Starter Truck
Post by: Sandman on 21-11-2009, 19:36:15
Quote from: papa_bear on 20-11-2009, 20:18:09
Sada polako na cufte :)

ma shta polako.. :D gotove i cufte danas! :D

elem, reshio sam da ne lepim dekale sa japanskim oznakama, vec da ih naprskam....
prvo sam zamaskirao celu maketu kako ne bi crvena prsnula tamo gde ne treba... Mumija.. na japanski nachin! :D

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day13-01.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day13-01.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day13-02.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day13-02.jpg)

maske za Hinomaru tj. japanske oznake na krilima i trupu (ili popularno zargonski zvane "cufte") napravio sam od Tamiya trake, a krugove sam isekao pomocu shestara razdelnika (onaj sa dve igle)...

plashio sam se da ne budu krzave ivice, no srecom jedva da je krzavost ivica kruznica vidljiva, i to samo kaf se zagleda iz velike blizine... ovako je inache zanemarljivo!

koristio sam enamel MM1550 Flat Red iz vishe tankih slojeva tako da se dobila ona zagasito crvena na oznakama - u prirodi je tamnije nego na slikama inache, a vidi se i blago senchenje po linijama panela....

evo kako su oznake ispale na kraju....

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day13-03.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day13-03.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day13-04.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day13-04.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day13-05.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day13-05.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day13-06.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day13-06.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day13-07.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day13-07.jpg)

sledece je lakiranje Future-om kao zashtita dosadashnjeg rada, i podloga za preostalih par dekala, kao i farbanje sitnijih delova....
Title: Re: Fujimi 1/72 D4Y3 "Judy" + Hasegawa 1/72 Toyota GB Starter Truck
Post by: Dada on 21-11-2009, 19:43:59
Odlicno ispade! Ja cu veceras da prskam neke kruzice na helldiveru takodje se bojim malo te krzavosti, posto nisam stigao na red za kater...
Mozda si jedino kud i kao mogao da ocerupas malko cufte.. Nekako bas mnogo vriste u odnosu na avion u globalu, mada su ih zutaci farbali cim se ostete...
P.S. mnogo vejstas tamija traku :P :D :)
Title: Re: Fujimi 1/72 D4Y3 "Judy" + Hasegawa 1/72 Toyota GB Starter Truck
Post by: Sandman on 21-11-2009, 19:53:49
Quote from: papa_bear on 21-11-2009, 19:43:59
Odlicno ispade! Ja cu veceras da prskam neke kruzice na helldiveru takodje se bojim malo te krzavosti, posto nisam stigao na red za kater...

hvala :) samo dobro nalepi Tamiya traku na ravnu povrshinu (kutija od CD-a) i pazljivo okreni prvi krug shestarom razdelnikom... posle toga josh par krugova da zasechesh do plastike kako bi dobro odvojio centralni krug i to je to... posle lepljenja maske na maketu, samo chachkalicom predji polako po unutrashnjeom obodu maske da "zaglachash" krzavost ivica... nije zaista vidljivo mnogo uzivo... ovo je sve ipak slikano makro modom.... ;)

i kachi slike Hellica ;)

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Mozda si jedino kud i kao mogao da ocerupas malko cufte.. Nekako bas mnogo vriste u odnosu na avion u globalu, mada su ih zutaci farbali cim se ostete...

znam, imao sam tu ideju josh pre kamuflaze - da prvo naprskam cufte uz so chipping, ali sam od Lanmija, Chernyja i Baneta dobio savet da to ipak ne radim - bash zato shto su odrzavali svoje oznake kao znak poshtovanja prema Japanskom carstvu...

mooooozda samo suptilno na nekom spoju linija panela kasnije srebrnom olovkom ostavim koji tanushan trag, ali o tom potom...

inache, cufte deluju jarko na slikama, uzivo je malo tamnije, ne vidi se chak ni senchenje koje sam uradio preko linija panela... mislio sam najpre da prskam Hu19, poshto je ta boja vec u startu zagasitija i 99% se poklapa sa bojom na dekalima, ali sam odustao jer je boja gloss, i iz iskustva sa F-104 odustao sam od nje.... :P
Title: Re: Fujimi 1/72 D4Y3 "Judy" + Hasegawa 1/72 Toyota GB Starter Truck
Post by: Sandman on 23-11-2009, 21:36:33
juche je maketa preprskana sa Future-om, a danas sam zalepio preostalih par dekala, a zatim ih zashtitio sa premazom Future-a....

brojevi na repu su na zalost odshtampani pogreshnim fontom i malo su veci nego bi trebalo da budu, tako da su legli neshto nize na vertikalcu...

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day14-01.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day14-01.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day14-02.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day14-02.jpg)

na redu je farbanje pojedinih detalja, a zatim slede wash i (semi)mat lak....
Title: Re: Fujimi 1/72 D4Y3 "Judy" + Hasegawa 1/72 Toyota GB Starter Truck
Post by: gasha on 24-11-2009, 10:00:31
Posto ga vec radis ovako oguljenog, bas kako mi to volimo, oguli mu malo i te brojke na vertikalcu. Da ne bude veliki kontrast. Zam da se brojevi teze gule nego farba ali trebalo bi na par mesta da ih cepnes i izbledis.
Bice  :super
Title: Re: Fujimi 1/72 D4Y3 "Judy" + Hasegawa 1/72 Toyota GB Starter Truck
Post by: Sandman on 24-11-2009, 10:11:00
da naravno, brojke cu na kraju, nakon matiranja, da srebrnom olovkom doradim malo... ne bih da cepkam dekal kako ga ne bih unishtio u celini - brojevi na profilima koje sam do sada nashao nisu bili oguljeni skroz, tako da ce, nadam se, olovka da zavrshi posao ;)
Title: Re: Fujimi 1/72 D4Y3 "Judy" + Hasegawa 1/72 Toyota GB Starter Truck
Post by: Sandman on 02-12-2009, 20:35:10
Danas sam zvanichno zavrshio radove na Judy! :)

Jeste da se rad oduzio usled pregrsht drugih projekata, ali mislim da je vredelo - bilo je muka oko gitovanja na pojedinim spojevima, ali sav posao kasnije mi je predstavljao pravi uzitak, a usput sam isprobao i nauchio josh jednu novu tehniku - simulaciju guljenja farbe sa solju tj. tzv. "salt chipping"....

Od zadnjih slika u radu uradjen je wash (uljane slikarske boje + white spirit), maketa lakirana sa meshavinom matt i semigloss laka (MM enamel), zaprljana sa MIG pigmentima (garez oko izduvnika sam radio u par nijansi braon pigmenata), i zalepljena antena (chuvena "kosa" dobijena od Lanmija).

Josh jednom se zahvaljujem Goksiju (Hartmann) shto mi je poklonio ovu maketu, nadam se da nisam izneverio ochekivanja.... ;) :P :D

A sad.... slike koje govore vishe od rechi.... ;)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day15-01.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day15-01.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day15-02.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day15-02.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day15-03.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day15-03.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day15-04.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day15-04.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day15-05.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day15-05.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day15-06.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day15-06.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day15-07.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day15-07.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day15-08.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day15-08.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day15-09.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day15-09.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day15-10.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day15-10.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day15-11.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day15-11.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day15-12.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day15-12.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day15-13.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day15-13.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day15-14.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day15-14.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day15-15.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day15-15.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day15-16.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day15-16.jpg)

a evo malo i slika detalja...

donji prozor sam uradio od Microscale Kristal Clear-a...

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day15-17.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day15-17.jpg)

na repnom tochku sam prvo ofarbao felnu u aluminijum, a zatim beli prsten gume da bih na kraju ofarbao i gaznu povrshinu u meshavinu crne i antracita....

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day15-18.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day15-18.jpg)

pito cev... dlachice su gratis - pokupljene na poletanju/sletanju :P :D

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day15-19.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day15-19.jpg)

stajni trap - zafarbano crevo za hidrauliku, kao i platnena navlaka preko amortizera...

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day15-20.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day15-20.jpg)

izduvne cevi "ofarbane" pomocu pigmenata u boju rdje a zatim raznim nijansama braon docharana garez od izduva...

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day15-21.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day15-21.jpg)

nakon washa nijansiranje panela je josh lepshe doshlo do izrazaja...

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day15-22.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day15-22.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day15-23.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day15-23.jpg)

unutrashnjost kokpita se skoro i ne vidi, ali na forumu ostaju slike iz rada kao dokumentacija da je unutra sve uradjeno po propisu :D

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day15-24.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day15-24.jpg)

detalj izduva sa desne strane...

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/th_Day15-25.jpg) (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day15-25.jpg)

...i fotka za kraj sa neizbeznim referentnim objektom....  :violin

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/srkirad/Kampanje/Cufte%20-%20nekad%20i%20sad/Fujimi%201-72%20D4Y3%20Judy/Day15-26.jpg)

eto to bi bilo to od mene za ovu kampanju, chekamo do kraja meseca da vidimo hoce li josh neko zavrshiti svoj rad pa da sumiramo rezultate posle Nove Godine ;)

pozz  :caooo
Srdjan
Title: Re: Fujimi 1/72 D4Y3 "Judy" + Hasegawa 1/72 Toyota GB Starter Truck
Post by: djos & filip on 02-12-2009, 21:03:57
Svi problemi i sav ulozeni trud su se definitivno isplatili.

Maketa izgleda vrhunski. "Soljenje" je definitivno jedan od boljih metoda za chiping, i stvarno je guljenje ispalo verno. I boja je odlicna.

Da ne tupim vise maketa je vrlo verna prezentacija ovog aviona.

Svaka cast

Pozdrav
Title: Re: Fujimi 1/72 D4Y3 "Judy" + Hasegawa 1/72 Toyota GB Starter Truck
Post by: Dada on 03-12-2009, 13:50:04
Nemas ti pojma, kreni da sakupljas markice :D ZEEEZ! Odlicno ispade ocerupani. Svidja mi se kako si odradio tragove izduva. Ma sve vrh!
Title: Re: Fujimi 1/72 D4Y3 "Judy" + Hasegawa 1/72 Toyota GB Starter Truck
Post by: Kerber on 03-12-2009, 14:07:39
Odlican malac. Vidim da si popravio ono okruglasto chippovanje i sad izgleda veoma dobro.
Nije imao koje torpedence da mu ga prikacis, eda bi izgledao malko agresivnije?
Sve u svemu - odlican! Sedi na mesto ! ;)

Pozz !


PS. Cek, cek tek sad vidim...A kamionce, nije ovo jos gotovo....nema ga starter truck....vratite nam pare... ;D
Title: Re: Fujimi 1/72 D4Y3 "Judy" + Hasegawa 1/72 Toyota GB Starter Truck
Post by: Sandman on 03-12-2009, 14:13:24
hvala na komentarima :)

Quote from: Kerber on 03-12-2009, 14:07:39
Nije imao koje torpedence da mu ga prikacis, eda bi izgledao malko agresivnije?

nisu dali torpedo, samo dve bombice i potkrilna rezervoara koji mi nekako ne leze na ovoj maketi, tako da sam reshio da ostavim samo chiste linije aviona ;) shteta shto nisu dali da se bombaluk napravi otvoren, bilo bi efektnije, no, da se ne bunim previshe ;) :D

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PS. Cek, cek tek sad vidim...A kamionce, nije ovo jos gotovo....nema ga starter truck....vratite nam pare... ;D

nema.. odustao sam josh ranije - ovaj avion nije pokretan uz pomoc kamioncheta kako mi rekoshe AG02 i papa_bear pa sam odustao od te makete, ali nisam skidao slike... ostaje za neko drugo dzapansko avionche, i mozda chak mini dioramicu... ;)
Title: Re: Fujimi 1/72 D4Y3 "Judy" + Hasegawa 1/72 Toyota GB Starter Truck
Post by: Warhawk on 03-12-2009, 15:00:59
Chipping perfektan, Otake super ispao. Mozda je garez malo prenaglasena, ali generalno super izgleda  :mjetal
Title: Re: Fujimi 1/72 D4Y3 "Judy" + Hasegawa 1/72 Toyota GB Starter Truck
Post by: sezan on 09-12-2009, 15:46:44
Bas si se potrudio ,nema sta!Sve se vidi!Eh kad cu ja da naucim da slikam kao ti???  :think Odlican ispao tj. si ga uradeo!Pozz!
Title: Re: Fujimi 1/72 D4Y3 "Judy" + Hasegawa 1/72 Toyota GB Starter Truck
Post by: UrbanKnight on 09-12-2009, 16:32:39
Mrzim te!!!  ;D

Nisam znao da oguljotine mogu da se rade i pomocu soli... ja sam koristio pastu za zube, ali ne ispada tako dobro.
Title: Re: Fujimi 1/72 D4Y3 "Judy" + Hasegawa 1/72 Toyota GB Starter Truck
Post by: Sandman on 09-12-2009, 17:04:44
pasta za zube je pogodnija za "ljushtenu" farbu, ili na engleskom "peeling", dok nepravilne oguljotine realnije izgledaju kad se rade pomocu soli ;)

ovu tehniku je na MK medju prvima chini mi se Lanmi demonstrirao na svom Kawanishiju (2007. godine chini mi se) pa mi je taj njegov topik bio osnovni vodich za rad....

sledecu maketu probaj ovom tehnikom, josh ako radish u 1/48 ili nekoj vecoj razmeri bice ti mnogo lakshe - u 72ci je malko pipavo zbog blizine linija panela!

hvala na komentarima josh jednom :)
Title: Re: Fujimi 1/72 D4Y3 "Judy" + Hasegawa 1/72 Toyota GB Starter Truck
Post by: Goran A. on 09-12-2009, 17:14:39
Dobro ispade, mada bi mu ja dodao jos malo tackastih ostecenja farbe.
Title: Re: Fujimi 1/72 D4Y3 "Judy" + Hasegawa 1/72 Toyota GB Starter Truck
Post by: JUNKERS on 09-12-2009, 18:50:36
Au bre ljudi znamo da su Japanozeri i farbanje bile dve razlicite galaksije ali sto bas toliko??? Salim se. Avion je lep, jako lep. Bravo. :bravo