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Title: T-34/84 JNA Croatia 1991 [revell 1/72]
Post by: TankRed070 on 06-05-2009, 23:28:48
Hi again,

I would like to share with you guys the new built-log. Tis time I started T-34/85 used by VRS. I started this project some time ago already but still, the progress is not so big.
I want to built this vehicle:
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_lphYaYj8anc/SV3bkSa4ObI/AAAAAAAAAYg/PrYcFKd2UlQ/s800/t-34-85_06.jpg) (http://picasaweb.google.com/Zbigniew.Perski/T34_85#5286622954069178802)
source: Srpski Oklop (http://stef124.tripod.com)

Note: "mushroom" turret, browning MG, T-55 wheels and many small details different from the standard.

In my model I am planning all hatches opened and some interior. I decide to use revell set which is the closest to that vehicle. The turret I am modifying by myself. I am planning also to use some parts from other sets (DML, wheels from ACE) and some potoetched parts ftom PART and EDUARD

And  here some pictures about the progress:

(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_lphYaYj8anc/SVzyfPGEQZI/AAAAAAAAAXs/7Z3AY7z-MGE/s800/101_3249.jpg) (http://picasaweb.google.com/Zbigniew.Perski/T34_85#5286366681067962770)
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_lphYaYj8anc/SVzygWK4lZI/AAAAAAAAAX0/sBPt83YOAtE/s800/101_3248.jpg) (http://picasaweb.google.com/Zbigniew.Perski/T34_85#5286366700147086738)
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_lphYaYj8anc/SXhqhqXO6yI/AAAAAAAAAec/kC_EL-fDeR4/s800/101_3352.jpg) (http://picasaweb.google.com/Zbigniew.Perski/T34_85#5294098488513981218)
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_lphYaYj8anc/Sbmgxe96B2I/AAAAAAAAAiQ/2dnS4mHrBfg/s800/101_3641.jpg) (http://picasaweb.google.com/Zbigniew.Perski/T34_85#5312454007446964066)
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_lphYaYj8anc/Sc_os0RDXYI/AAAAAAAAAwQ/TmsZKGD-Qv0/s800/101_3727.jpg) (http://picasaweb.google.com/Zbigniew.Perski/T34_85#5318725541589900674)

BTW: if someone can say somethin were and when the original photo was taken it would be great!

Hvala!



Title: Re: T-34/84 VRS [revell 1/72]
Post by: sezan on 06-05-2009, 23:43:16
Good start!Good choise!Just cary on!
Title: Re: T-34/84 VRS [revell 1/72]
Post by: Hawkeye on 07-05-2009, 07:21:32
This is going to be another of your works of art  :super  :bravo !
Title: Re: T-34/84 VRS [revell 1/72]
Post by: ubermagog on 07-05-2009, 13:24:58
Good work as usual  :)

I'm not sure that this picture is from Bosnia, it could be from Croatia – so it is possible it's not VRS, rather it is JNA vehicle – but I'm not 100% sure!

Yugoslavia (and JNA) had lots of different types of T-34/85 (original soviet Zavod types, from Eastern Europe production, and some local modifications), and they are all kept in good shape in reserve units up to the 90's and civil war. Unfortunately we don't have good pictures of them in use, before or during the wars.

From ACE T-55 besides the wheels you can also use little box from the left side (fuel pump system), check out these detail pictures.

your type
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/airsuba/T-34%20foto/th_01.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/airsuba/T-34%20foto/01.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/airsuba/T-34%20foto/th_02.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/airsuba/T-34%20foto/02.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/airsuba/T-34%20foto/th_03.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/airsuba/T-34%20foto/03.jpg)

couple of others
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/airsuba/T-34%20foto/th_t-34-85m_03.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/airsuba/T-34%20foto/t-34-85m_03.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/airsuba/T-34%20foto/th_t-34-85m_04.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/airsuba/T-34%20foto/t-34-85m_04.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/airsuba/T-34%20foto/th_t-34-85m_08.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/airsuba/T-34%20foto/t-34-85m_08.jpg)

some details
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/airsuba/T-34%20foto/th_S3500113_Large.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/airsuba/T-34%20foto/S3500113_Large.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/airsuba/T-34%20foto/th_S3500114_Large.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/airsuba/T-34%20foto/S3500114_Large.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/airsuba/T-34%20foto/th_S3500115_Large.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/airsuba/T-34%20foto/S3500115_Large.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/airsuba/T-34%20foto/th_S3500116_Large.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/airsuba/T-34%20foto/S3500116_Large.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/airsuba/T-34%20foto/th_S3500117_Large.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/airsuba/T-34%20foto/S3500117_Large.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/airsuba/T-34%20foto/th_S3500118_Large.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/airsuba/T-34%20foto/S3500118_Large.jpg)

Also here is some good walkaround pictures!
ex-jna ex-croatia army, here you can find same type that you build http://www.hrcappuccino.org/articles/okohodac/85novi.htm (http://www.hrcappuccino.org/articles/okohodac/85novi.htm)
ex-jna that is at display at Belgrade Military Museum, but it is different type http://www.hrcappuccino.org/articles/okohodac/T-34B.htm (http://www.hrcappuccino.org/articles/okohodac/T-34B.htm)
Title: Re: T-34/84 VRS [revell 1/72]
Post by: drazen on 07-05-2009, 14:29:17
Keep up the good work  :bravo
Waiting for progress   :super
Title: Re: T-34/84 VRS [revell 1/72]
Post by: RILE-NS on 07-05-2009, 19:28:16
You could choose to make some other tank more adequate to your  Revell model.One tank that has the same "mushrooms" on turret, the same turret ,the same so called ZAVOD or factory of origin.
The tank on picture that you choose is 100% JNA(YPA-Yugoslav Peoples Army) in Croatia 1991.
Check the references that the guys before me gave you I am sure that you will find your tank.Good luck and enjoy every minute of it.
Title: Re: T-34/84 JNA Croatia 1991 [revell 1/72]
Post by: TankRed070 on 07-05-2009, 20:58:33
Folks,
thanks a lot! My mistake comes probably from Bison Decals where the markings of that tank are labeled as VRS in Bosnia. It is not a first time that I found a mistake in that set.
As you probably noticed I modified the title of this tread.
Thanks for the links and photos! I knew hrappucino site but not those specific galleries.
I decided for tis specific tank due to following reasons:
1. Quite good reference: two picture whereas usually are only one
2. I have decals for it
3. I like that mixed wheels  :super

Another question: Bison decals suggests that the tank was painted in two color camouflage: JNA green with irregular strips of sand. The sand was sprayed irregularly or it was just made from mud.

In my opinion it is single JNA green but heavily weathered in irregular way. 

Thanks a lot!  :cheers

Title: Re: T-34/84 JNA Croatia 1991 [revell 1/72]
Post by: TankRed070 on 08-05-2009, 00:22:36
Little update. The ull is closed and I started to work on mudguards. The PE parts does not fit perfectly but I will fix that.

(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_lphYaYj8anc/SgNc28BxbMI/AAAAAAAAA2M/d7qhmlOLX2U/s800/101_3796.jpg) (http://picasaweb.google.com/Zbigniew.Perski/T34_85#5333208482633051330)
(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_lphYaYj8anc/SgNc4JH0DaI/AAAAAAAAA2Q/ixkdEd6gL3g/s800/101_3795.jpg) (http://picasaweb.google.com/Zbigniew.Perski/T34_85#5333208503327919522)


Hvala.
Title: Re: T-34/84 JNA Croatia 1991 [revell 1/72]
Post by: TankRed070 on 23-08-2009, 23:46:31
Hi,

finally I did some forward.

The hull:

(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_lphYaYj8anc/SpG1dMpGQkI/AAAAAAAABWI/qnaaTZv2ZVA/s800/Picture%20024.jpg)
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_lphYaYj8anc/SpG1fJIj0sI/AAAAAAAABWM/9yYApTsJkWE/s800/Picture%20023.jpg)
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_lphYaYj8anc/SpG1gQzzmWI/AAAAAAAABWQ/quRJF-jM0Qo/s800/Picture%20021.jpg)
(http://www.picasa2html.comAs you see it is very basic but it will be almost not visible troug the hatches.

And here is already sprayed with surfacer. I want to paint it rather quickly because there will be alot of work outside.
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_lphYaYj8anc/SpG1jkGjX_I/AAAAAAAABWY/PEFgur2T-ms/s800/Picture%20029.jpg)


Cheers

Pozdrawiam (http://www.picasa2html.com)
Title: Re: T-34/84 JNA Croatia 1991 [revell 1/72]
Post by: Nemsy_29 on 24-08-2009, 12:34:05
Nice job so far  :cheers
Title: Re: T-34/84 JNA Croatia 1991 [revell 1/72]
Post by: dragos on 24-08-2009, 17:04:00
Very promising project.
Title: Re: T-34/84 JNA Croatia 1991 [revell 1/72]
Post by: zamorano on 24-08-2009, 17:37:53
It is starting to look like another one of your masterpieces - exactly as expected  :super... Great work!(http://www.kolobok.us/smiles/artists/laie/Laie_98.gif)
Title: Re: T-34/84 JNA Croatia 1991 [revell 1/72]
Post by: TankRed070 on 28-08-2009, 00:10:45
Thanks a lot!

I am slowly adding small details:
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_lphYaYj8anc/SpcA31GT8WI/AAAAAAAABYQ/pcEZsYYKMrY/s800/Picture%20011.jpg)
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_lphYaYj8anc/SpcA5moztXI/AAAAAAAABYU/KIG3QghccRo/s800/Picture%20006.jpg)

The hull is almost ready. I need to add (make) a base for smoke canisters.

Cheers
Title: Re: T-34/84 JNA Croatia 1991 [revell 1/72]
Post by: PELE on 28-08-2009, 09:32:39
That looks great! Can't wait to see paint job. :) Keep working!  ;D
Title: Re: T-34/84 JNA Croatia 1991 [revell 1/72]
Post by: ubermagog on 02-11-2009, 23:45:06
Quote from: Meatbag on 02-11-2009, 22:18:09
Looks great. But why are some parts of the hull painted gold?  :o
:think

c,c,c.... maketarsko neiskustvo, maketa je neofarbana - to su 'ecovani' dodatni delovi za bolji i finiji detalj (kupuje se obično posebno)
:D
Title: Re: T-34/84 JNA Croatia 1991 [revell 1/72]
Post by: Dada on 02-11-2009, 23:49:15
Mate, serious job! I'm not tank fan, but this is really cool looking piece of machinery.
Meatbag, search on google for photo etched parts.
http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/TnT_Archives/Photo_Etch.htm
Title: Re: T-34/84 JNA Croatia 1991 [revell 1/72]
Post by: TankRed070 on 11-02-2010, 23:29:06
Hi people,

this project was reactivated during last couple of weeks.
Today I finished the assembling:
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_lphYaYj8anc/S3SBqGBpA3I/AAAAAAAABtM/9IZRFwrZcHQ/s800/Picture%20015.jpg)
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_lphYaYj8anc/S3SBqUVAzDI/AAAAAAAABtQ/NnDOmrfmsr8/s800/Picture%20014.jpg)
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_lphYaYj8anc/S3SBqwcJ-9I/AAAAAAAABtU/4nWofs02TmM/s800/Picture%20013.jpg)
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_lphYaYj8anc/S3SBrczLEzI/AAAAAAAABtY/IDm0KcJ4as0/s800/Picture%20011.jpg)
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_lphYaYj8anc/S3SBrkpTDgI/AAAAAAAABtc/InwkT31hQfk/s800/Picture%20010.jpg)
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_lphYaYj8anc/S3SBsPkIGBI/AAAAAAAABtg/-dSJQt2qqIA/s800/Picture%20008.jpg)
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_lphYaYj8anc/S3SBsu1yQxI/AAAAAAAABtk/PgJCziC2NUA/s800/Picture%20007.jpg)
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_lphYaYj8anc/S3SBtFgGYEI/AAAAAAAABto/cobgz-PEnSg/s800/Picture%20016.jpg)

As you see I was trying to be as close as possible to that photos.

Tomorrow I hope to start painting job.
Title: Re: T-34/84 JNA Croatia 1991 [revell 1/72]
Post by: SkyHook032 on 11-02-2010, 23:37:19
Proper good job mate!  :o

I really dig this piece of machinery,cant wait to see the paint job,no doubt it'll be as good as the rest of the tank!

Details are amazing,especially the machine gun...dunno why it caught my attention :D

Best of luck with painting,when it's finished it's truly gonna be a mean machine!

Cheers  :cheers
Title: Re: T-34/84 JNA Croatia 1991 [revell 1/72]
Post by: BigBadWolf on 12-02-2010, 00:59:02
That's coming up very nicely. Have you decided on camo?
Title: Re: T-34/84 JNA Croatia 1991 [revell 1/72]
Post by: TankRed070 on 12-02-2010, 09:03:30
Thanks,

Quote from: BigBadWolf on 12-02-2010, 00:59:02
Have you decided on camo?
Yes. It should looks like on the photo in my first post in this tread.
I don't think that it was a camo. In my opinion it was painted in JNA green but heavily weathered.
Title: Re: T-34/84 JNA Croatia 1991 [revell 1/72]
Post by: drazen on 12-02-2010, 23:47:30
No doubt that this is going to be another master-peace of yours  :super
Title: Re: T-34/84 JNA Croatia 1991 [revell 1/72]
Post by: TankRed070 on 14-02-2010, 21:22:03
Thanks a lot!

Here are some updates: I corrected a bit the turret (the cover plate was too short) and painted it with the base (Mr surfacer 1000):
(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_lphYaYj8anc/S3hYpdECSnI/AAAAAAAABvs/o6HOgc3_xhs/s800/Picture%20015.jpg)
(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_lphYaYj8anc/S3hYpvlNOHI/AAAAAAAABvw/9pUj39hSQeE/s800/Picture%20014.jpg)
(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_lphYaYj8anc/S3hYqGanABI/AAAAAAAABv0/MEZh0qgMAC4/s800/Picture%20013.jpg)
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_lphYaYj8anc/S3hYqkP8N3I/AAAAAAAABv4/Tpbr6iYiWkU/s800/Picture%20012.jpg)

Cheers
Title: Re: T-34/84 JNA Croatia 1991 [revell 1/72]
Post by: dragos on 14-02-2010, 22:14:19
Looks much better than my 1/35.   :caooo
Title: Re: T-34/84 JNA Croatia 1991 [revell 1/72]
Post by: TankRed070 on 14-02-2010, 22:19:35
Thanks  :cheers
and here is a quick update: the model is painted with the base color:
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_lphYaYj8anc/S3hjLptI5bI/AAAAAAAABwY/9yLBIz9Kmqs/s800/Picture%20005.jpg)
(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_lphYaYj8anc/S3hjMHIL20I/AAAAAAAABwc/lVTgNIkErkM/s800/Picture%20004.jpg)
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_lphYaYj8anc/S3hjM449cEI/AAAAAAAABwk/L7si-AVvvKA/s800/Picture%20002.jpg)
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_lphYaYj8anc/S3hjNK6m1mI/AAAAAAAABwo/8LF2lpHVn48/s800/Picture%20001.jpg)
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_lphYaYj8anc/S3hjNSjr3AI/AAAAAAAABws/hFvusUjoWLc/s800/Picture%20007.jpg)

Cheers!
Title: Re: T-34/84 JNA Croatia 1991 [revell 1/72]
Post by: TankRed070 on 15-02-2010, 23:02:04
And some better pictures:
(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_lphYaYj8anc/S3kGpFnmykI/AAAAAAAABxM/W_g6kZ2IrtA/s800/DSC00107a.jpg)
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_lphYaYj8anc/S3kGp6XYm7I/AAAAAAAABxQ/BOp7Dgr-07c/s800/DSC00105a.jpg)
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_lphYaYj8anc/S3kGqXRWG8I/AAAAAAAABxU/mQ3Bqmgid7g/s800/DSC00104a.JPG)
(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_lphYaYj8anc/S3kGq4gTR6I/AAAAAAAABxY/o4QkA_BDgK4/s800/DSC00109a.jpg)

Cheers!
Title: Re: T-34/84 JNA Croatia 1991 [revell 1/72]
Post by: TankRed070 on 19-02-2010, 19:31:31
Small update: decals + wash:
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_lphYaYj8anc/S37MyK3iYFI/AAAAAAAABy0/o9ojlu2A2y0/s800/Picture%20006.jpg)
(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_lphYaYj8anc/S37MzMFlXkI/AAAAAAAABy4/FOmKKxKrWoE/s800/Picture%20005.jpg)
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_lphYaYj8anc/S37M0JBCvFI/AAAAAAAABy8/EA6D7ffwZas/s800/Picture%20004.jpg)
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_lphYaYj8anc/S37M0twwMfI/AAAAAAAABzA/z3hUIXOoWwo/s800/Picture%20003.jpg)
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_lphYaYj8anc/S37M1qMxHNI/AAAAAAAABzE/bDB5-m5klRs/s800/Picture%20002.jpg)
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_lphYaYj8anc/S37M2TW3A3I/AAAAAAAABzI/5xNMsIR1hWo/s800/Picture%20001.jpg)
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_lphYaYj8anc/S37M24dB7NI/AAAAAAAABzM/VWMckHN-hlg/s800/Picture%20007.jpg)
Title: Re: T-34/84 JNA Croatia 1991 [revell 1/72]
Post by: drazen on 19-02-2010, 22:57:27
You are definitely an expert for 1/72 scale... :o :super
Title: Re: T-34/84 JNA Croatia 1991 [revell 1/72]
Post by: SkyHook032 on 20-02-2010, 00:13:31
Does it fire grenades too?  :hahaha

Jokin' a bit mate :D awesome work,i'm really astonished by the outcome!

Congrats and keep up the good work!  :cheers
Title: Re: T-34/84 JNA Croatia 1991 [revell 1/72]
Post by: modellius on 20-02-2010, 10:04:55
this is better built then much '35 I saw, great work !
Title: Re: T-34/84 JNA Croatia 1991 [revell 1/72]
Post by: TankRed070 on 06-03-2010, 00:15:30
Hi!

:violin :violin THE END  :violin :violin

(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_lphYaYj8anc/S5GOnlQnGlI/AAAAAAAAB4A/k5q1EimxEsQ/s800/DSC00132.JPG)


finally finished, might be viewed here: http://www.maketarskikutak.com/index.php/topic,9219.0.html

Thanks a lot for your help and comments!